Capalaba R2 CORNERSTONE RISK Maiden H
Cornerstone Risk Maiden H
1:07pm • 366m1:07pm • 366m
Age
03/11/2019
Sex
Red Bdl - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-1-0-0
Career
1-1-0-0
Prize Money
$18,875
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
N/A
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 1-1-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-1-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 100% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 100% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
No recent form
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Moreira
Dam
My Gal Penny
Trained at
Purga
Owners
Northern Prince - MGR M Willoughby
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Malcolm Willoughby | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
First start this track. Got close at Casino 300m Jan 13 when placed in its best run to date. Place hope.
Age
09/02/2020
Sex
Black - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-1-0
Career
6-0-2-1
Prize Money
$14,760
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
52483
Last Run
31 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 6-0-2-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-0-1-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 50% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/8 | 13 Jan 2022 | Casino | 300m | 2 | M | - | 1.0L | $250 | 1 | $2.30 | 63 days ago | 4-3-3-3 | 2.52 | Clover Puzzle | - | King Missile 30.1kgs 1.0L |
| 8/8 | 11 Nov 2021 | Casino | 411m | 2 | M | - | 13.25L | - | 4 | $4.20 | 2 days ago | 7-8-8-8 | 8.97 | Burringbar Boys | - | - |
| 4/8 | 9 Nov 2021 | Lismore | 420m | 2 | M | - | 6.25L | - | 1 | $1.90 | 5 days ago | 3-3-4-4 | 9.94 | Dandy Gambler | - | - |
| 2/8 | 4 Nov 2021 | Casino | 411m | 2 | M | - | 6.5L | $340 | 2 | $7.50 | 14 days ago | 2-2-2-2 | 8.8 | Fast Liar | King Missile 31.3kgs 6.5L | - |
| 5/8 | 21 Oct 2021 | Casino | 411m | 3 | M | - | 12.25L | - | 8 | $8.50 | - | 6-6-5-5 | 9.01 | Rusciano | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Magic Sprite
Dam
Kingsbrae Chooky
Trained at
Glenfield Park
Owners
Clint Colaiacovo
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Charles Northfield | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Placed this track Feb 6 box one when well backed and pushed off balance late in the race when right up there, Can win this.
Age
07/06/2019
Sex
Blue - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
6-0-2-2
Career
6-0-2-2
Prize Money
$31,445
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
35242
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 6-0-2-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 6-0-2-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 67% | 0% | 0% | 67% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/7 | 6 Feb 2022 | Capalaba | 366m | 1 | M | - | 1.5L | $460 | 1 | $1.80 | 7 days ago | 2 | - | Austrian Eagle | Thornbird 27.1kgs 1.5L | - |
| 4/8 | 30 Jan 2022 | Capalaba | 366m | 1 | M | - | 2.5L | $115 | 5 | $5.00 | 4 days ago | 4 | - | Black Idol | - | - |
| 2/7 | 26 Jan 2022 | Capalaba | 366m | 2 | M | - | 2.25L | $460 | 3 | $3.30 | 3 days ago | 2 | - | Orchids for Me | Thornbird 26.9kgs 2.25L | - |
| 5/7 | 23 Jan 2022 | Capalaba | 366m | 1 | M | - | 4.25L | $20 | 2 | $10.00 | 11 days ago | 5 | - | Biscuit Roller | - | - |
| 3/7 | 12 Jan 2022 | Capalaba | 366m | 1 | M | - | 4.25L | $230 | 3 | $13.00 | - | 3 | - | Brigginshaw | - | Thornbird 26.7kgs 4.25L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Keybow
Dam
Secret Witness
Trained at
Churchable
Owners
SHANE ANDREWS
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shane Andrews | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
First start this track. Placed in four of five starts. Risky beginner but can lead and will run it out strongly. One of the best chances.
Age
03/09/2020
Sex
Red Fwn - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-0-0
Career
6-0-1-3
Prize Money
$36,825
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
233F3
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 6-0-1-3 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 67% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/8 | 8 Feb 2022 | Ipswich | 431m | 2 | M | - | 2.5L | $260 | 1 | $2.40 | 13 days ago | 3-3 | 13.92 | Out of Emilia | - | No Money Honey 28.7kgs 2.5L |
| FTF/8 | 26 Jan 2022 | Albion Park | 395m | 2 | M | - | - | - | 1 | $3.60 | 3 days ago | 0 | - | Barty Hayze | - | No Money Honey 28.7kgs |
| 3/8 | 23 Jan 2022 | Albion Park | 331m | 3 | M | - | 2.0L | $270 | 7 | $2.90 | 4 days ago | 2-3 | 7.22 | Boom One Down | - | No Money Honey 28.8kgs 2.0L |
| 3/7 | 19 Jan 2022 | Albion Park | 395m | 2 | M | - | 5.25L | $310 | 6 | $3.90 | 3 days ago | 2-3 | 10.58 | Barty Hayze | - | No Money Honey 28.9kgs 5.25L |
| 2/8 | 16 Jan 2022 | Albion Park | 331m | 1 | M | - | 3.75L | $460 | 2 | $3.30 | - | 2-2 | 7.31 | Boom One Down | No Money Honey 28.9kgs 3.75L | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Zambora Brockie
Dam
Regal Jade
Trained at
Bilinga
Owners
Charles Cauchi
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jeanette Cauchi | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
First start at this track. Just a fair beginner. Unplaced so far. Prefer others in this one.
Age
30/03/2020
Sex
Red Fwn - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-0-0
Career
3-0-0-0
Prize Money
$79,510
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
55
Last Run
9 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 3-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/8 | 4 Feb 2022 | Ipswich | 288m | 2 | M | - | 7.25L | $20 | 7 | $19.00 | 14 days ago | 4-5 | 6.2 | Blue Queen | - | - |
| 5/8 | 21 Jan 2022 | Ipswich | 288m | 2 | M | - | 5.5L | $20 | 6 | $23.00 | - | 7-5 | 6.4 | Mistletoe Magic | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Frosty Jay Jay
Dam
Bella Cette
Trained at
Fairney View
Owners
Renald Attard
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Renald Attard | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Stayed wide from box seven when unplaced but not far away on debut this track Feb 9. Did have its chance. Better for the look. Eachway.
Age
17/10/2019
Sex
Black - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
2-0-0-0
Career
2-0-0-0
Prize Money
$695
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
4
Last Run
4 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 2-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 2-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4/7 | 9 Feb 2022 | Capalaba | 366m | 2 | M | - | 2.5L | $115 | 7 | $3.10 | - | 4 | - | Where's the Pub | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Aston Dee Bee
Dam
Reshuffle
Trained at
Buccan
Owners
Jane Crawford
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jeff Crawford | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
First start this track. Over 20 starts and still a maiden but backed and got close Ipswich 431m Jan 29 in first Queensland start. Respect.
Age
22/10/2019
Sex
Black - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
0-0-0-0
Career
22-0-5-3
Prize Money
$2,230
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
3275554562
Last Run
15 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 22-0-5-3 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 36% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/8 | 29 Jan 2022 | Ipswich | 431m | 1 | M | - | 0.25L | $620 | 7 | $2.50 | 94 days ago | 3-2 | 13.82 | Judy Moo Moo | Pat Foot Charlie 35.3kgs 0.25L | - |
| 6/7 | 27 Oct 2021 | Wentworth Park | 520m | 1 | M | - | 4.25L | - | 3 | $61.00 | 7 days ago | 6-7-7-6-6 | 5.76 | Club Model | - | - |
| 5/7 | 20 Oct 2021 | Wentworth Park | 520m | 1 | M | - | 10.5L | - | 8 | $31.00 | 7 days ago | 3-5-3-3-5 | 5.59, 18.7 | Pazienza | - | - |
| 4/4 | 13 Oct 2021 | Wentworth Park | 520m | 1 | M | - | 5.25L | - | 8 | $15.00 | 8 days ago | 3-4-4-4-4 | 5.6, 18.55 | Blackjackist | - | - |
| 5/7 | 5 Oct 2021 | Bulli | 400m | 1 | M | - | 6.0L | - | 3 | $26.00 | 10 days ago | 1-6-5-5 | 6.7 | Restriction | - | - |
| 5/8 | 25 Sep 2021 | Bulli | 472m | 2 | M | - | 4.25L | - | 1 | $11.00 | 3 days ago | 6-3-3-5 | 10.25 | Zipping Rowan | - | - |
| 5/8 | 22 Sep 2021 | Bulli | 400m | 1 | M | - | 7.25L | - | 6 | $21.00 | 7 days ago | 8-8-6-5 | 6.83 | Teddy's Boy | - | - |
| 7/8 | 15 Sep 2021 | Bulli | 472m | 3 | M | - | 12.75L | - | 2 | $5.00 | 4 days ago | 3-5-7-7 | 10.52 | Irrational | - | - |
| 2/7 | 11 Sep 2021 | Bulli | 400m | 1 | M | - | 0.031L | $260 | 7 | $3.60 | 13 days ago | 2 | 6.73 | Ethan Keeping | Pat Foot Charlie 35kgs 0.031L | - |
| 3/6 | 29 Aug 2021 | Richmond | 535m | 2 | M | - | 6.5L | $190 | 7 | $10.00 | 4 days ago | 1-1-2-5-3 | 5.34, 15.7 | Charlee's Misty | - | Pat Foot Charlie 34.8kgs 6.5L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Sh Avatar
Dam
Lovelace
Trained at
Acacia Ridge
Owners
Andrew Clarke
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Andrew Clarke | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |







Race comment
First starter with no trial form. Out of the dam's first litter. Betting best guide at this stage.