Globe Derby R6 SEYMOUR GROUP MARES PACE
Seymour Group Mares Pace
4:43pm • 1800m • Mobile Start • Pacers • Sprint lane • NR up to 50. • 4YO and older • $4,5004:43pm • 1800m • Mobile Start • Pacers • Sprint lane • NR up to 50. • 4YO and older • $4,500
Age
8 years old
Sex
Brown - Mare
Today's Stats
Track
11-1-2-2
Distance
9-1-2-2
Track & Distance
9-1-2-2
Last Season
16-1-5-1
This Season
5-1-1-1
Career
81-9-15-10
Prize Money
$77,649
Win Range
1609 - 2190
Last 10 Starts
2308x13502
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Dist Range | Track | Trk & Dist | This Season | Last Season | 1st Up | 2nd Up | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 81-9-15-10 | 9-1-2-2 | 38-5-7-5 | 11-1-2-2 | 9-1-2-2 | 5-1-1-1 | 16-1-5-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 11% | 11% | 13% | 9% | 11% | 20% | 6% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 42% | 56% | 45% | 45% | 56% | 60% | 44% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 4 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 4 | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Driver | BR | Handicap | SP | Last Run | Settle | Mile rate | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/9 | 8 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | 3.8m | $3,000 | Wayne Hill | Fr5 | - | $3.70 | 4 days ago | - | 1:58.2 (59.3, 29.9) | Lochinvar Ruler | Emrites 3.8m | Kuhio Crest SHFHD |
| 10/10 | 4 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR 44 to 49. | Pace | 23.7m | $6,999 | Samantha Hill | Fr6 | - | $18.00 | 14 days ago | - | 1:59.8 (58.0, 29.4) | Cyclone Brenda | Amys Baby Angel 2.8m | Summerdays 3.9m |
| 5/10 | 20 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 44 to 51. | Pace | 11.5m | $6,999 | Samantha Hill | Fr5 | - | $14.00 | 12 days ago | - | 1:58.6 (58.2, 29.4) | Dreamalittledream NZ | Night Spirit 6.4m | Shirley Not HFHD |
| 3/10 | 8 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 44. | Pace | 2.9m | $4,500 | Wayne Hill | Fr6 | - | $4.80 | 7 days ago | - | 1:59.0 (59.8, 30.1) | Major Mad | Meet Me at the Beach NZ 2.8m | Emrites SHFHD |
| 1/7 | 1 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | - | $3,500 | Wayne Hill | Fr2 | - | $3.10 | 256 days ago | - | 2:00.9 (59.0, 29.4) | Emrites | Ozzie Joybell 2.4m | Hugh Go HD |
| 8/10 | 19 Dec 2024 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR up to 45. | Pace | 16.8m | $6,999 | Wayne Hill | Sr3 | - | $3.30 | 5 days ago | - | 2:00.6 (58.1, 29.6) | Blazin Heaven NZ | White Star Village 3.3m | Golden Jaylet HD |
| 10/10 | 14 Dec 2024 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 46. | Pace | 139.3m | $4,500 | Wayne Hill | Fr1 | - | $1.50 | 12 days ago | - | 1:58.6 (57.4, 28.7) | Rocking With Charm | Summerdays 5.4m | Meet Me at the Beach NZ 3.7m |
| 3/10 | 2 Dec 2024 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 47 to 54. | Pace | 5.6m | $3,000 | Wayne Hill | Sr2 | - | $3.30 | 8 days ago | - | 1:58.6 (58.4, 29.2) | Whata Optimist | Vatican Green NZ 1.9m | Emrites 3.7m |
| 2/10 | 24 Nov 2024 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 52. | Pace | HD | $6,999 | Wayne Hill | Sr2 | - | $5.00 | 6 days ago | - | 1:58.2 (58.4, 29.3) | Lochinvar Camaro | Emrites HD | Trumpys Legend 1.8m |
| 4/9 | 18 Nov 2024 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | 14.1m | $3,000 | Wayne Hill | Fr6 | - | $2.30 | - | - | 1:59.4 (58.9, 29.6) | Rocking With Charm | Giant Jackson 1.8m | Wheres Our Money 6.2m |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Courage Under Fire NZ
Dam
Chloe Vargarita
Trained at
Angle Vale
Colours
Blue, Pink Braces & Yoke, Blue Stars Blue &, Pink Checked Sleeves, Blue Cuffs & Collar Pink Waistba
Owners
T J (Tayla) Warren
| Driver (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wayne Hill | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T J Warren | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
BUTTER CUP (8) should get a run that suits her from the second row. She will be hard to beat if she can produce her best sort of run.LOUISE LUCK (2) looks like the main danger.LIL MISS CROCKER (4) was a big improver last start.MEET ME AT THE BEACH (1) is also a chance.
Age
7 years old
Sex
Bay/Brown - Mare
Today's Stats
Track
120-18-24-10
Distance
89-12-17-7
Track & Distance
88-12-17-7
Last Season
60-6-5-9
This Season
62-7-14-6
Career
164-21-27-16
Prize Money
$150,841
Win Range
1609 - 2230
Last 10 Starts
2606542512
Last Run
2 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Dist Range | Track | Trk & Dist | This Season | Last Season | 1st Up | 2nd Up | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 164-21-27-16 | 89-12-17-7 | 109-14-19-11 | 120-18-24-10 | 88-12-17-7 | 62-7-14-6 | 60-6-5-9 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 13% | 13% | 13% | 15% | 14% | 11% | 10% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 39% | 40% | 40% | 43% | 41% | 44% | 33% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 3 | 2 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 5 | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Driver | BR | Handicap | SP | Last Run | Settle | Mile rate | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/8 | 11 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR up to 43. | Pace | 3.6m | $6,999 | Kevin Weidenbach | Fr6 | - | $3.50 | 3 days ago | - | 2:00.6 (60.3, 30.5) | Major Mad | Butter Cup 3.6m | True Blue Rose 1.7m |
| 1/7 | 8 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR 47 to 54. | Pace | - | $3,000 | Kevin Weidenbach | Fr1 | - | $3.30 | 3 days ago | - | 2:01.4 (58.3, 28.8) | Butter Cup | Shireen 2.7m | Duke of Dundee NZ HD |
| 5/9 | 5 Oct 2025 | Kapunda | 1800m | - | NR up to 57. | Pace | 7.6m | $9,999 | Kevin Weidenbach | Fr2 | - | $21.00 | 4 days ago | - | 1:56.9 (56.5, 28.9) | Vatican Green Nz, Dreamalittledream NZ | - | Tonkawaikon 1.5m |
| 2/8 | 1 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 57. | Pace | SHFHD | $4,500 | Kevin Weidenbach | Fr3 | - | $34.00 | 4 days ago | - | 1:58.0 (58.9, 29.3) | Vatican Green NZ | Butter Cup HFHD | Buzz Bomb 2.3m |
| 4/8 | 27 Sep 2025 | Ptpirie | 2050m | - | NR 43 to 48. | Pace | 2.9m | $6,999 | Kevin Weidenbach | Fr5 | - | $10.00 | 5 days ago | - | 1:58.1 (58.3, 30.3) | Hy Filante | Shireen HFNK | Burning Hot 2.2m |
| 5/10 | 22 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | 11.6m | $3,000 | Kevin Weidenbach | Sr3 | - | $8.00 | 2 days ago | - | 2:00.5 (59.0, 29.6) | Summerdays | Clarenden Legacy 7.1m | Tufftiger 3.1m |
| 6/10 | 20 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 44 to 51. | Pace | 12.5m | $6,999 | Kevin Weidenbach | Fr2 | - | $17.00 | 7 days ago | - | 1:58.6 (58.2, 29.4) | Dreamalittledream NZ | Night Spirit 6.4m | Shirley Not HFHD |
| 11/11 | 13 Sep 2025 | Melton | 1720m | - | NR up to 79. | Garrards Horse & Hound | 30.5m | $15,000 | Kate Gath | Fr2 | - | $151.00 | 5 days ago | - | 1:53.5 (55.2, 27.6) | Goodtime Libby | Soap and Bubbles 2.8m | Mona Mia 2.7m |
| 6/10 | 8 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR 45 to 52. | Pace | 23.1m | $6,999 | Kevin Weidenbach | Sr1 | - | $23.00 | 6 days ago | - | 1:59.5 (57.2, 29.2) | Harro Hill | Vatican Green NZ HFHD | Star Man 1.8m |
| 2/6 | 2 Sep 2025 | Ptpirie | 1609m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | 1.5m | $4,500 | Wayne Hill | Fr1 | - | $3.90 | 1 day ago | - | 1:57.8 (56.6, 28.4) | True Blue Rose | Butter Cup 1.5m | Tommy Mach 9.9m |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Betting Line USA
Dam
Need a Boyfriend
Trained at
Alectown
Colours
White, Red Sash & Sleeves, White Cuffs, Red 'Ladbrokes' Logo
Owners
L (Luke) Ball
| Driver (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kevin Weidenbach | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| N Tardio | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
BUTTER CUP (8) should get a run that suits her from the second row. She will be hard to beat if she can produce her best sort of run.LOUISE LUCK (2) looks like the main danger.LIL MISS CROCKER (4) was a big improver last start.MEET ME AT THE BEACH (1) is also a chance.
Age
8 years old
Sex
Brown - Mare
Today's Stats
Track
22-2-3-3
Distance
17-0-3-2
Track & Distance
17-0-3-2
Last Season
22-1-2-2
This Season
27-4-4-4
Career
117-13-19-17
Prize Money
$86,086
Win Range
1609 - 2230
Last 10 Starts
1142454483
Last Run
2 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Dist Range | Track | Trk & Dist | This Season | Last Season | 1st Up | 2nd Up | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 117-13-19-17 | 17-0-3-2 | 85-8-13-9 | 22-2-3-3 | 17-0-3-2 | 27-4-4-4 | 22-1-2-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 11% | 0% | 9% | 9% | 0% | 15% | 5% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 42% | 29% | 35% | 36% | 29% | 44% | 23% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 5 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 6 | 3 | 6 | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Driver | BR | Handicap | SP | Last Run | Settle | Mile rate | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/8 | 11 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR up to 43. | Pace | 5.4m | $6,999 | Tony Pullicino | Fr7 | - | $9.00 | 3 days ago | - | 2:00.6 (60.3, 30.5) | Major Mad | Butter Cup 3.6m | True Blue Rose 1.7m |
| 8/9 | 8 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | 11.6m | $3,000 | Gaita Pullicino | Fr6 | - | $3.90 | 4 days ago | - | 1:58.2 (59.3, 29.9) | Lochinvar Ruler | Emrites 3.8m | Kuhio Crest SHFHD |
| 4/10 | 4 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR 44 to 49. | Pace | 10.7m | $6,999 | Gaita Pullicino | Fr7 | - | $21.00 | 3 days ago | - | 1:59.8 (58.0, 29.4) | Cyclone Brenda | Amys Baby Angel 2.8m | Summerdays 3.9m |
| 4/8 | 1 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 57. | Pace | 3.3m | $4,500 | Gaita Pullicino | Fr6 | - | $41.00 | 4 days ago | - | 1:58.0 (58.9, 29.3) | Vatican Green NZ | Butter Cup HFHD | Buzz Bomb 2.3m |
| 5/8 | 27 Sep 2025 | Ptpirie | 2050m | - | NR 43 to 48. | Pace | 3.9m | $6,999 | Tony Pullicino | Fr3 | - | $3.70 | 7 days ago | - | 1:58.1 (58.3, 30.3) | Hy Filante | Shireen HFNK | Burning Hot 2.2m |
| 4/10 | 20 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 44 to 51. | Pace | 11.1m | $6,999 | Gaita Pullicino | Sr1 | - | $6.50 | 7 days ago | - | 1:58.6 (58.2, 29.4) | Dreamalittledream NZ | Night Spirit 6.4m | Shirley Not HFHD |
| 2/10 | 13 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 47. | Pace | NK | $6,999 | Gaita Pullicino | Fr3 | - | $2.70 | 5 days ago | - | 1:59.0 (58.5, 29.1) | Meet Me at the Beach NZ | True Blue Rose NK | Trigger 1.1m |
| 4/10 | 8 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 44. | Pace | 6.9m | $4,500 | Gaita Pullicino | Sr3 | - | $3.10 | 6 days ago | - | 1:59.0 (59.8, 30.1) | Major Mad | Meet Me at the Beach NZ 2.8m | Emrites SHFHD |
| 1/6 | 2 Sep 2025 | Ptpirie | 1609m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | - | $4,500 | Gaita Pullicino | Fr3 | - | $2.10 | 3 days ago | - | 1:57.8 (56.6, 28.4) | True Blue Rose | Butter Cup 1.5m | Tommy Mach 9.9m |
| 1/10 | 30 Aug 2025 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR up to 43. | Pace | - | $6,999 | Tony Pullicino | Sr2 | - | $2.90 | 7 days ago | - | 2:02.3 (59.1, 29.7) | True Blue Rose | Butter Cup 6.6m | Alimonie HD |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Heston Blue Chip USA
Dam
Indigo Rose
Trained at
Mallala
Colours
Black, White Diamonds, Black Sleeves, White Diamonds & Cuffs
Owners
F (Frank) Pullicino
| Driver (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gaita Pullicino | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| F Pullicino | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
BUTTER CUP (8) should get a run that suits her from the second row. She will be hard to beat if she can produce her best sort of run.LOUISE LUCK (2) looks like the main danger.LIL MISS CROCKER (4) was a big improver last start.MEET ME AT THE BEACH (1) is also a chance.
Age
6 years old
Sex
Bay - Mare
Today's Stats
Track
9-0-1-1
Distance
8-0-1-1
Track & Distance
8-0-1-1
Last Season
3-2-0-0
This Season
19-0-1-3
Career
37-5-4-5
Prize Money
$53,605
Win Range
1700 - 2180
Last 10 Starts
5x52046484
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Dist Range | Track | Trk & Dist | This Season | Last Season | 1st Up | 2nd Up | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 37-5-4-5 | 8-0-1-1 | 22-4-3-2 | 9-0-1-1 | 8-0-1-1 | 19-0-1-3 | 3-2-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 14% | 0% | 18% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 67% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 38% | 25% | 41% | 22% | 25% | 21% | 67% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 2 | 7 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 1 | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Driver | BR | Handicap | SP | Last Run | Settle | Mile rate | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4/8 | 8 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | 4.5m | $3,000 | Tiana Mcmahon | Fr1 | - | $2.20 | 4 days ago | - | 1:59.4 (59.9, 30.8) | Ozzie Joybell | Lil Miss Crocker 1.7m | Paradigm 2.0m |
| 8/10 | 4 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR 44 to 49. | Pace | 20.9m | $6,999 | Tiana Mcmahon | Fr3 | - | $101.00 | 3 days ago | - | 1:59.8 (58.0, 29.4) | Cyclone Brenda | Amys Baby Angel 2.8m | Summerdays 3.9m |
| 4/8 | 1 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | 4 LIFETIME WINS | Pace | 16.3m | $4,500 | Tiana Mcmahon | Fr4 | - | $4.60 | 4 days ago | - | 1:59.5 (59.7, 30.3) | Rostova | Paradigm 5.5m | Pre Nup 6.0m |
| 6/7 | 27 Sep 2025 | Ptpirie | 2050m | - | 5 LIFETIME WINS | Pace | 2.2m | $4,500 | Tiana Mcmahon | Fr6 | - | $6.00 | 5 days ago | - | 2:01.1 (57.3, 29.7) | Itz Blackjack | Lunchinheaven HFHD | Ohso Kinky HFNK |
| 4/10 | 22 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | 7.0m | $3,000 | Tiana Mcmahon | Sr2 | - | $34.00 | 2 days ago | - | 1:59.0 (59.1, 29.5) | Narobi NZ | Ozzie Joybell 1.1m | Hy Filante 4.1m |
| 10/10 | 20 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 44 to 51. | Pace | 19.4m | $6,999 | Tiana Mcmahon | Fr3 | - | $34.00 | 7 days ago | - | 1:58.6 (58.2, 29.4) | Dreamalittledream NZ | Night Spirit 6.4m | Shirley Not HFHD |
| 2/7 | 13 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | 5 LIFETIME WINS | Pace | HFNK | $4,500 | Tiana Mcmahon | Fr4 | - | $14.00 | 4 days ago | - | 2:01.2 (58.9, 29.7) | Miss Out | The Notorious R B G NZ NK | Skyline Angel NK |
| 5/6 | 9 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | 5 LIFETIME WINS | Pace | 11.6m | $3,000 | Tiana Mcmahon | Fr3 | - | $26.00 | 90 days ago | - | 2:04.0 (59.1, 28.2) | Dreamalittledream NZ | Hugh Go 2.3m | Tommy Mach HD |
| 5/9 | 11 Jun 2025 | Horsham | 2200m | - | NR 50 to 55. | Decron Invitation Drivers | 8.8m | $7,000 | Chris Svanosio | Fr5 | - | $31.00 | 8 days ago | - | 2:00.0 (57.9, 29.4) | Keayang Seaside | Keayang Galliano 3.3m | Optimal SHFHD |
| 4/7 | 3 Jun 2025 | Mt.Gamb | 1780m | - | NR 47 to 54. | Pace | 11.7m | $4,500 | David Drury | Fr2 | - | $7.50 | - | - | 1:59.1 (58.8, 30.1) | Miki Steamed Home | We Favour Rosie 2.3m | Eastbro Kozzy HFNK |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Hes Watching USA
Dam
Alesandra Ambrosio (NZ)
Trained at
Mallala
Colours
Purple, Black Braces, Yoke & Sleeves, Purple Stars On Yoke & Sleeves, Tjm On Cuffs
Owners
T J (Tiana) McMahon
| Driver (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tiana McMahon | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T J McMahon | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
D: Jason Kittel (a(C,5))
T: S M Kittel
Race comment
BUTTER CUP (8) should get a run that suits her from the second row. She will be hard to beat if she can produce her best sort of run.LOUISE LUCK (2) looks like the main danger.LIL MISS CROCKER (4) was a big improver last start.MEET ME AT THE BEACH (1) is also a chance.
Age
6 years old
Sex
Bay - Mare
Today's Stats
Track
38-6-1-5
Distance
37-6-1-4
Track & Distance
35-6-1-4
Last Season
38-6-2-3
This Season
22-4-2-2
Career
78-12-6-5
Prize Money
$80,033
Win Range
1609 - 2270
Last 10 Starts
3751212658
Last Run
2 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Dist Range | Track | Trk & Dist | This Season | Last Season | 1st Up | 2nd Up | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 78-12-6-5 | 37-6-1-4 | 62-11-6-4 | 38-6-1-5 | 35-6-1-4 | 22-4-2-2 | 38-6-2-3 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 15% | 16% | 18% | 16% | 17% | 18% | 16% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 29% | 30% | 34% | 32% | 31% | 36% | 29% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 6 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Driver | BR | Handicap | SP | Last Run | Settle | Mile rate | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8/8 | 11 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR up to 43. | Pace | 19.3m | $6,999 | Gaita Pullicino | Fr3 | - | $2.80 | 6 days ago | - | 2:00.6 (60.3, 30.5) | Major Mad | Butter Cup 3.6m | True Blue Rose 1.7m |
| 5/9 | 5 Oct 2025 | Kapunda | 1800m | - | NR up to 40. | Pace | 7.7m | $4,500 | Jason Kittel | Fr1 | - | $1.80 | 8 days ago | - | 2:02.1 (60.2, 30.6) | Give US a Wink | Childers Road 3.6m | Sea Hunter 1.0m |
| 6/9 | 27 Sep 2025 | Ptpirie | 1609m | - | NR up to 42. | Pace | 33.5m | $6,999 | Jason Kittel | Fr6 | - | $7.50 | 11 days ago | - | 1:57.8 (57.4, 29.2) | Cyclone Brenda | Give US a Wink 13.9m | Nykea Courage HFHD |
| 2/6 | 16 Sep 2025 | Ptpirie | 1609m | - | NR up to 40. | Pace | 5.0m | $4,500 | Jason Kittel | Fr2 | - | $1.60 | 3 days ago | - | 1:56.3 (59.1, 30.0) | Cavalry | Meet Me at the Beach NZ 5.0m | Teddy Sandel 7.1m |
| 1/10 | 13 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 47. | Pace | - | $6,999 | Jason Kittel | Fr1 | - | $3.80 | 5 days ago | - | 1:59.0 (58.5, 29.1) | Meet Me at the Beach NZ | True Blue Rose NK | Trigger 1.1m |
| 2/10 | 8 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 44. | Pace | 2.8m | $4,500 | Jason Kittel | Sr2 | - | $21.00 | 7 days ago | - | 1:59.0 (59.8, 30.1) | Major Mad | Meet Me at the Beach NZ 2.8m | Emrites SHFHD |
| 1/7 | 1 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 40. | Pace | - | $3,000 | Jason Kittel | Fr7 | - | $8.50 | 9 days ago | - | 2:01.7 (60.9, 30.6) | Meet Me at the Beach NZ | Twin Connection HD | Giftedfromtheheart HD |
| 5/8 | 23 Aug 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 49. | F&m Pace | 5.8m | $6,999 | Gaita Pullicino | Fr1 | - | $3.90 | 7 days ago | - | 1:58.6 (59.5, 30.1) | Shirley Not | True Blue Rose HFHD | Dreamalittledream NZ 2.5m |
| 7/9 | 16 Aug 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 44. | Pace | 15.5m | $4,500 | Gaita Pullicino | Fr2 | - | $2.30 | 7 days ago | - | 1:59.4 (58.8, 29.0) | Golden Jaylet | Wyattflynn 7.0m | Give US a Wink, Love to Deal 3.6m |
| 3/10 | 9 Aug 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 42. | Pace | 6.0m | $6,999 | Gaita Pullicino | Sr1 | - | $12.00 | 4 days ago | - | 1:59.0 (59.4, 29.3) | Reach the Peak | Love to Deal HFNK | Meet Me at the Beach NZ 5.3m |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Downbytheseaside USA
Dam
Rosemary Grace (NZ)
Trained at
Angle Vale
Colours
Yellow, Purple Braces, White Armbands
Owners
S M Kittel, M A Cappelluti
| Driver (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jason Kittel | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| S M Kittel | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
BUTTER CUP (8) should get a run that suits her from the second row. She will be hard to beat if she can produce her best sort of run.LOUISE LUCK (2) looks like the main danger.LIL MISS CROCKER (4) was a big improver last start.MEET ME AT THE BEACH (1) is also a chance.
Age
4 years old
Sex
Bay - Mare
Today's Stats
Track
48-5-3-11
Distance
45-5-3-10
Track & Distance
45-5-3-10
Last Season
20-1-1-2
This Season
26-2-2-5
Career
61-6-4-11
Prize Money
$37,781
Win Range
1730 - 1800
Last 10 Starts
7x87796652
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Dist Range | Track | Trk & Dist | This Season | Last Season | 1st Up | 2nd Up | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 61-6-4-11 | 45-5-3-10 | 56-6-4-10 | 48-5-3-11 | 45-5-3-10 | 26-2-2-5 | 20-1-1-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 10% | 11% | 11% | 10% | 11% | 8% | 5% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 34% | 40% | 36% | 40% | 40% | 35% | 20% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 7 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Driver | BR | Handicap | SP | Last Run | Settle | Mile rate | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/8 | 8 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | 1.7m | $3,000 | David Smith | Fr2 | - | $19.00 | 7 days ago | - | 1:59.4 (59.9, 30.8) | Ozzie Joybell | Lil Miss Crocker 1.7m | Paradigm 2.0m |
| 5/9 | 1 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 42. | Pace | 15.3m | $3,000 | David Smith | Fr7 | - | $41.00 | 9 days ago | - | 1:59.1 (59.8, 30.2) | Magnetize | Hilltop Blossom 1.8m | Give US a Wink 1.0m |
| 6/9 | 22 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | 5 LIFETIME WINS | Pace | 17.0m | $3,000 | Michael a Smith | Fr1 | - | $17.00 | 7 days ago | - | 1:59.0 (59.5, 29.5) | Treacherous One | Reach the Peak 3.7m | Miss Out 9.1m |
| 6/10 | 15 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | 10.5m | $3,500 | Jason Kittel | Fr2 | - | $12.00 | 7 days ago | - | 2:01.5 (58.9, 29.1) | Lochinvar Ruler | Hugh Go 2.6m | Summerdays HD |
| 9/9 | 8 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 44. | Pace | 14.5m | $4,500 | David Smith | Fr5 | - | $41.00 | 9 days ago | - | 2:00.5 (58.6, 29.9) | Line Up Jacquie | React to Beauty 2.3m | Nanna Helen HFNK |
| 7/10 | 30 Aug 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 44 to 49. | Pace | 9.2m | $6,999 | David Smith | Sr1 | - | $61.00 | 7 days ago | - | 1:59.7 (59.3, 30.0) | Resurrects | Harro Hill NK | Reach the Peak HFHD |
| 7/8 | 23 Aug 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 49. | F&m Pace | 10.1m | $6,999 | David Smith | Sr2 | - | $71.00 | 7 days ago | - | 1:58.6 (59.5, 30.1) | Shirley Not | True Blue Rose HFHD | Dreamalittledream NZ 2.5m |
| 8/8 | 16 Aug 2025 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR 45 to 51. | Pace | 34.6m | $6,999 | David Smith | Fr1 | - | $14.00 | 84 days ago | - | 2:02.3 (59.4, 29.0) | Harro Hill | Shireen 3.4m | Roscos Rescue 3.3m |
| 7/9 | 24 May 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | No NR. | Pace | 19.8m | $6,999 | David Smith | Fr4 | - | $26.00 | 7 days ago | - | 1:59.6 (57.3, 28.8) | Machete Roulette | Splash of Paynt 4.3m | My Bucks Night 1.0m |
| 4/8 | 17 May 2025 | G Derby | 2230m | - | NR 45 to 49. | Pace | 68.4m | $6,999 | David Smith | Fr2 | - | $19.00 | - | - | 1:57.0 (58.9, 29.9) | Captain Perfect | Rocking With Charm 55.6m | Blacktop Rock 2.7m |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Rock N Roll World USA
Dam
Lisa Crocker
Trained at
Penfield
Colours
Hot Pink, Purple W & P, Gold Star, Purple Sleeves With Gold & Hot Pink Stars
Owners
Walk Proud Pty Ltd
| Driver (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Smith | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| I W Smith | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
BUTTER CUP (8) should get a run that suits her from the second row. She will be hard to beat if she can produce her best sort of run.LOUISE LUCK (2) looks like the main danger.LIL MISS CROCKER (4) was a big improver last start.MEET ME AT THE BEACH (1) is also a chance.
Age
7 years old
Sex
Bay - Mare
Today's Stats
Track
123-10-16-24
Distance
109-9-14-21
Track & Distance
109-9-14-21
Last Season
0-0-0-0
This Season
46-4-7-10
Career
163-12-21-32
Prize Money
$69,433
Win Range
1720 - 2230
Last 10 Starts
358r050899
Last Run
6 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Dist Range | Track | Trk & Dist | This Season | Last Season | 1st Up | 2nd Up | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 163-12-21-32 | 109-9-14-21 | 137-10-18-26 | 123-10-16-24 | 109-9-14-21 | 46-4-7-10 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 7% | 8% | 7% | 8% | 8% | 9% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 40% | 40% | 39% | 41% | 40% | 46% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 8 | 5 | 8 | 5 | 5 | 6 | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Driver | BR | Handicap | SP | Last Run | Settle | Mile rate | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9/9 | 7 Oct 2025 | Mildura | 1790m | - | NR up to 49. | Club Merbein Pace | 31.0m | $4,000 | Ros Rolfe | Fr2 | - | $23.00 | 3 days ago | - | 1:59.5 (58.4, 29.6) | Better Blue Boys | Glitzy All Over 5.7m | Cruz With Rome 5.5m |
| 9/10 | 4 Oct 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR up to 43. | Pace | 19.3m | $4,500 | Kevin Weidenbach | Fr2 | - | $17.00 | 7 days ago | - | 1:58.0 (57.7, 29.0) | Rostova | Magnetize 4.5m | Twin Connection 7.2m |
| 8/9 | 27 Sep 2025 | Ptpirie | 1609m | - | NR up to 57. | Pace | 10.9m | $4,500 | Kevin Weidenbach | Fr2 | - | $101.00 | 5 days ago | - | 1:58.6 (57.7, 28.8) | Dreamalittledream NZ | Ubetonred 2.5m | Lincs Poor Boy 2.6m |
| 10/10 | 22 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | 26.8m | $3,000 | Gaita Pullicino | Fr6 | - | $26.00 | 6 days ago | - | 2:00.5 (59.0, 29.6) | Summerdays | Clarenden Legacy 7.1m | Tufftiger 3.1m |
| 5/5 | 16 Sep 2025 | Ptpirie | 2050m | - | NR 48 to 56. | Pace | 11.6m | $4,500 | Wayne Hill | Sr1 | - | $7.50 | 3 days ago | - | 1:59.6 (57.2, 29.3) | Shireen | Major Icon NZ SHFHD | Winston Alexander HD |
| 10/11 | 13 Sep 2025 | Melton | 1720m | - | NR up to 79. | Garrards Horse & Hound | 27.6m | $15,000 | Jodi Quinlan | Fr1 | - | $61.00 | 12 days ago | - | 1:53.5 (55.2, 27.6) | Goodtime Libby | Soap and Bubbles 2.8m | Mona Mia 2.7m |
| 0/6 | 1 Sep 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 46. | Pace | - | $3,500 | Tony Pullicino | Fr2 | - | $14.00 | 2 days ago | - | 1:59.3 (60.6, 30.3) | Butter Cup | Night Spirit HD | Roscos Rescue 7.1m |
| 8/10 | 30 Aug 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 44 to 49. | Pace | 9.9m | $6,999 | Gaita Pullicino | Fr4 | - | $51.00 | 5 days ago | - | 1:59.7 (59.3, 30.0) | Resurrects | Harro Hill NK | Reach the Peak HFHD |
| 5/9 | 25 Aug 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | NR 41 to 47. | Pace | 14.8m | $3,500 | Gaita Pullicino | Sr1 | - | $6.00 | 3 days ago | - | 1:58.3 (61.1, 30.9) | Butter Cup | Night Spirit 1.8m | Lochinvar Ruler 8.0m |
| 3/11 | 22 Aug 2025 | Mildura | 2190m | - | NR up to 49. | Zilzie Wines Pace Final | 12.7m | $6,000 | Tony Pullicino | Sr3 | - | $34.00 | - | - | 1:59.5 (59.6, 29.9) | Pottsy the Guru | Ellava Pacer 2.3m | Come on Sloopy 10.4m |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Captaintreacherous (US)
Dam
Betsy Layne NZ
Trained at
Globe Derby Park
Colours
Royal Blue, Green V, Purple Sleeves, Blue Stripe
Owners
R (Rebecca) Geurds
| Driver (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dean Girardi | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| N Tardio | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
BUTTER CUP (8) should get a run that suits her from the second row. She will be hard to beat if she can produce her best sort of run.LOUISE LUCK (2) looks like the main danger.LIL MISS CROCKER (4) was a big improver last start.MEET ME AT THE BEACH (1) is also a chance.
Age
5 years old
Sex
Bay - Mare
Today's Stats
Track
1-0-0-0
Distance
1-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-0-0
Last Season
2-0-1-1
This Season
10-2-2-1
Career
12-2-3-2
Prize Money
$28,100
Win Range
1780
Last 10 Starts
21449x21x0
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Dist Range | Track | Trk & Dist | This Season | Last Season | 1st Up | 2nd Up | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 12-2-3-2 | 1-0-0-0 | 10-2-3-2 | 1-0-0-0 | 1-0-0-0 | 10-2-2-1 | 2-0-1-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 17% | 0% | 20% | 0% | 0% | 20% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 58% | 0% | 70% | 0% | 0% | 50% | 100% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 1 | - | 1 | - | - | 2 | 2 | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Driver | BR | Handicap | SP | Last Run | Settle | Mile rate | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10/12 | 6 Oct 2025 | Horsham | 1700m | - | NR 50 to 55. | The Weekly Advertiser Pace | 17.9m | $6,000 | James Herbertson | Fr1 | - | $14.00 | 125 days ago | - | 1:57.2 (58.5, 29.9) | Maxy Can Dance | We Favour Rosie 1.1m | Katunga Express SHFHD |
| 1/9 | 3 Jun 2025 | Mt.Gamb | 1780m | - | NR up to 40. | Pace | - | $4,500 | Jayson Finnis | Sr2 | - | $5.50 | 7 days ago | - | 2:02.9 (60.8, 31.0) | Louise Luck | Case Forty Eight HD | Dancin With Elvis 1.0m |
| 2/9 | 27 May 2025 | Mt.Gamb | 1780m | - | NR up to 40. | Pace | HFHD | $4,500 | Hannah Lewis | Fr6 | - | $14.00 | 90 days ago | - | 2:01.8 (60.4, 31.2) | Classact | Louise Luck HFHD | Case Forty Eight 3.8m |
| 9/11 | 26 Feb 2025 | Charltn | 2100m | - | NR 45 to 50. | Heenan'S Newsagency Pace | 27.2m | $6,000 | Jayson Finnis | Fr5 | - | $34.00 | 11 days ago | - | 1:58.1 (58.1, 28.9) | Mister Jimaringle | Budd Sidewinder 3.0m | Lollipop 2.1m |
| 4/7 | 15 Feb 2025 | G Derby | 1800m | - | 1 WIN OVER $4,500 | Pace | 13.4m | $6,999 | Jayson Finnis | Fr2 | - | $9.00 | 6 days ago | - | 2:01.7 (58.3, 28.5) | Royal Watch | Alive and Free 8.4m | Ideal Melody NK |
| 4/7 | 9 Feb 2025 | Mt.Gamb | 1780m | - | 2 LIFETIME WINS | Pace | 14.5m | $4,500 | Jayson Finnis | Fr3 | - | $4.00 | 12 days ago | - | 2:02.4 (59.1, 29.3) | Keayang Payton | Case Forty Eight 6.9m | Im Princess Nellie 4.2m |
| 1/7 | 28 Jan 2025 | Mt.Gamb | 1780m | - | NR up to 40. | Pace | - | $3,000 | Jayson Finnis | Fr5 | - | $1.40 | 9 days ago | - | 2:00.9 (60.2, 31.5) | Louise Luck | Famous Label 7.6m | Modern Jolt 22.4m |
| 2/8 | 19 Jan 2025 | Mt.Gamb | 1780m | - | MAIDEN | Pace | 3.7m | $3,000 | Jayson Finnis | Sr2 | - | $1.95 | 7 days ago | - | 2:00.1 (59.2, 30.8) | Purple Kaida | Louise Luck 3.7m | Eastbro Zara 7.1m |
| 8/10 | 12 Jan 2025 | Hamiltn | 2160m | - | MAIDEN | Tk Landscaping Pty Ltd | 17.9m | $6,000 | Jayson Finnis | Sr1 | - | $17.00 | 5 days ago | - | 2:00.3 (57.0, 27.9) | Soho Margarita | Huxham Chubb 1.4m | Wicked Hangover 3.0m |
| 3/6 | 7 Jan 2025 | Mt.Gamb | 1780m | - | NR up to 40. | Pace | 16.8m | $3,000 | Jayson Finnis | Fr6 | - | $4.00 | - | - | 1:59.5 (58.4, 30.1) | Auckland Miss | Creative Lad HD | Louise Luck 16.3m |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Sweet Lou USA
Dam
Indigo Rose
Trained at
South Bathurst
Colours
Green, Pink Quarters, Blue Sleeves
Owners
N V Goulding, H T Wolfenden
| Driver (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ryan Hryhorec | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| B D Finnis | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
BUTTER CUP (8) should get a run that suits her from the second row. She will be hard to beat if she can produce her best sort of run.LOUISE LUCK (2) looks like the main danger.LIL MISS CROCKER (4) was a big improver last start.MEET ME AT THE BEACH (1) is also a chance.