Ladbrokes Big Bets Copy Now Masters
8:50am • 300m8:50am • 300m
Age
27/02/2022
Sex
Blue Fwn - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
24-6-3-4
Career
53-9-7-8
Prize Money
$14,930
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
10 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 53-9-7-8 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 24-6-3-4 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 17% | 0% | 0% | 25% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 45% | 0% | 0% | 54% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7/8 | 22 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 10 | 5 | - | 6.5L | - | 5 | $41.00 | 32 days ago | 1-8-7 | 6.68 | Majestic Emmy | - | - |
| 7/8 | 20 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 10 | M3 | - | 12.25L | - | 8 | $2.30 | 7 days ago | 1-8-7 | 6.89 | Midweek Scotches | - | - |
| 6/8 | 13 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 5 | 4 | - | 6.0L | - | 4 | $19.00 | 7 days ago | 7-6-6 | 6.67 | Young Energy | - | - |
| 1/8 | 6 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 7 | M3 | - | 2.0L | $875 | 2 | $3.60 | 28 days ago | 4-2-1 | 6.48 | Pippa | - | Missy's Girl |
| 2/8 | 9 May 2026 | Taree | 300m | 6 | M3 | - | 0.5L | $250 | 4 | $2.60 | 14 days ago | 5-3-2 | 6.59 | Keylin | Pippa 28.7kgs 0.5L | - |
| 3/8 | 25 Apr 2026 | Taree | 300m | 11 | 4 | - | 2.5L | $175 | 7 | $8.50 | 7 days ago | 1-3-3 | 6.55 | Majestic Emmy | - | Pippa 28.6kgs 2.5L |
| 3/8 | 18 Apr 2026 | Taree | 300m | 5 | 4 | - | 4.25L | $175 | 1 | $6.00 | 7 days ago | 4-4-3 | 6.57 | Ocean's Pearl | - | Pippa 28.4kgs 4.25L |
| 3/8 | 11 Apr 2026 | Taree | 300m | 3 | M3 | - | 3.0L | $150 | 4 | $4.20 | 7 days ago | 5-3-3 | 6.6 | Keylin | - | Pippa 28.4kgs 3.0L |
| 3/8 | 4 Apr 2026 | Taree | 300m | 4 | 4 | - | 4.0L | $175 | 1 | $6.50 | 175 days ago | 5-5-3 | 6.62 | Just a Joy | - | Pippa 29kgs 4.0L |
| 8/8 | 11 Oct 2025 | Taree | 300m | 6 | 3 | - | 9.25L | - | 5 | $1.85 | 17 days ago | 1-4-8 | 6.72 | Teapot Scandal | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Orson Allen
Dam
Tink
Trained at
Pampoolah
Owners
Stanley Towers
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stanley Towers | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Steady chaser without a win since October last year. Inclined to risk again from this draw.
Age
19/01/2022
Sex
Blue Fwn - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
28-1-3-5
Career
99-14-19-13
Prize Money
$24,406
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
8 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 99-14-19-13 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 28-1-3-5 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 14% | 0% | 0% | 4% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 46% | 0% | 0% | 32% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/7 | 24 Jul 2026 | Goulburn | 350m | 5 | 5 | - | 5.75L | $325 | 6 | $9.50 | 13 days ago | 3-3-3 | - | Cash De Oro | - | Miss Ziva 27.3kgs 5.75L |
| 5/7 | 11 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 10 | M3 | - | 5.75L | - | 5 | $4.80 | 23 days ago | 3-3-5 | 6.58 | Keylin | - | - |
| 7/8 | 18 Jun 2026 | Richmond Straight | 324m | 5 | M2 | - | 7.75L | - | 6 | $101.00 | 5 days ago | 7-7 | 7.27 | Send It Silver | - | - |
| 4/8 | 13 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 3 | M2 | - | 5.5L | $75 | 1 | $5.50 | 7 days ago | 5-4-4 | 6.67 | Midweek Scotches | - | - |
| 6/7 | 6 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 8 | 3 | - | 4.25L | - | 7 | $23.00 | 159 days ago | 5-4-6 | 6.59 | Fabio Zed | - | - |
| 4/7 | 29 Dec 2025 | Maitland | 400m | 9 | 4 | - | 5.25L | $75 | 2 | $41.00 | 9 days ago | 6-6-6-4 | 5.51 | Tarawi Lock | - | - |
| 7/7 | 20 Dec 2025 | Taree | 300m | 7 | 3 | - | 11.0L | - | 8 | $34.00 | 5 days ago | 6-7-7 | 6.66 | Barefoot Chaos | - | - |
| 4/7 | 15 Dec 2025 | Maitland | 450m | 9 | 5 | - | 6.25L | $75 | 4 | $51.00 | 12 days ago | 1-4 | 7.92 | Unleash Brady | - | - |
| 3/8 | 3 Dec 2025 | Gunnedah | 431m | 7 | 5 | - | 6.25L | $465 | 8 | $19.00 | 7 days ago | 4-4-3-3 | 11.58 | Bentley Fisher | - | Miss Ziva 27.4kgs 6.25L |
| 4/8 | 26 Nov 2025 | Gunnedah | 340m | 3 | 4 | - | 9.75L | $75 | 5 | $41.00 | 4 days ago | 4-4-4-4 | 6.62 | Cash Run | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Zipping Alea
Trained at
Kundle Kundle
Owners
James Goddard
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| James Goddard | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Poor record this course. Lacks early dash and is likely to give them a start. Wider exotics only.
Age
10/03/2022
Sex
Black - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
25-0-1-4
Career
54-3-3-10
Prize Money
$6,159
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
35 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 54-3-3-10 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 25-0-1-4 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 6% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 30% | 0% | 0% | 20% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/7 | 27 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 9 | 5 | - | 7.0L | - | 5 | $13.00 | 7 days ago | 5-6-5 | 6.73 | Little Whacker | - | - |
| 5/8 | 20 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 10 | M3 | - | 10.25L | - | 6 | $71.00 | 14 days ago | 8-6-5 | 6.76 | Midweek Scotches | - | - |
| 6/8 | 6 Jun 2026 | Ladbrokes Gardens | 400m | 9 | 5 | - | 4.75L | - | 1 | $21.00 | 3 days ago | 6-8-6 | - | Kaelix Nitro | - | - |
| 5/8 | 3 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 12 | 5 | - | 6.0L | - | 5 | $61.00 | 4 days ago | 7-7-5 | 6.8 | Zipping Tanaka | - | - |
| 3/8 | 30 May 2026 | Ladbrokes Gardens | 400m | 10 | 5 | - | 1.0L | $325 | 5 | $81.00 | 7 days ago | 8-4-3 | 11.42 | Lakota Courtney | - | Sea Surge 26.4kgs 1.0L |
| 7/8 | 23 May 2026 | Ladbrokes Gardens | 400m | 11 | 5 | - | 10.0L | - | 8 | $61.00 | 7 days ago | 8-8-7 | 11.64 | Patient Vicky | - | - |
| 3/7 | 16 May 2026 | Ladbrokes Gardens | 400m | 12 | 5 | - | 9.0L | $325 | 3 | $51.00 | 7 days ago | 5-5-3 | 11.86 | Money Pit | - | Sea Surge 27.3kgs 9.0L |
| 7/8 | 9 May 2026 | Ladbrokes Gardens | 400m | 5 | 5 | - | 10.5L | - | 7 | $51.00 | 3 days ago | 7-5-5-7 | 11.66 | Run Rolex | - | - |
| 5/8 | 6 May 2026 | Taree | 300m | 8 | 5 | - | 7.0L | - | 3 | $41.00 | 4 days ago | 8-7-5 | - | Carl Bruce | - | - |
| 2/8 | 2 May 2026 | Ladbrokes Gardens | 400m | 7 | 5 | - | 0.75L | $435 | 4 | $101.00 | 14 days ago | 8-3-2 | 11.43 | Sketchy Get In | Sea Surge 27.8kgs 0.75L | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Shima Shine
Dam
Midnight Carmen
Trained at
Thrumster
Owners
Damage Control - MGR D Delaney
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Aaron Shearman | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Winner in fair time this course. Takes a few strides to warm up but is quite strong. Each way claims.
Age
01/03/2021
Sex
Brindle - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
5-1-0-1
Career
74-10-20-9
Prize Money
$39,480
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
8 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 74-10-20-9 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 5-1-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 14% | 0% | 0% | 20% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 53% | 0% | 0% | 40% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/8 | 24 Jul 2026 | Goulburn | 350m | 10 | M3 | - | 3.0L | $325 | 8 | $19.00 | 15 days ago | 3-3-3 | - | Summer Faith | - | Jake Peralta 34.1kgs 3.0L |
| 5/7 | 9 Jul 2026 | Richmond Straight | 324m | 6 | M2 | - | 8.25L | - | 1 | $51.00 | 3 days ago | 6-5 | 7.26, 12.79 | Fumbles | - | - |
| 7/7 | 6 Jul 2026 | Maitland | 400m | 8 | M2 | - | 10.25L | - | 7 | $51.00 | 5 days ago | 7-5-5-7 | 5.45 | My Moon Shadow | - | - |
| 3/7 | 1 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 2 | M2 | - | 1.75L | $325 | 1 | $7.50 | 11 days ago | 6-4-3 | 6.57 | Weekend Scotch | - | Jake Peralta 33.8kgs 1.75L |
| 1/8 | 20 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 11 | M3 | - | 1.25L | $875 | 8 | $4.00 | 16 days ago | 5-4-1 | 6.61 | Jake Peralta | - | Stole My Bone |
| 5/6 | 4 Jun 2026 | Richmond Straight | 324m | 9 | M3 | - | 5.25L | - | 1 | $8.50 | 101 days ago | 5-5-5 | 7.23, 12.84 | Ballow's Revenge | - | - |
| 5/8 | 23 Feb 2026 | Maitland | 400m | 2 | M3 | - | 8.75L | - | 7 | $10.00 | 14 days ago | 6-6-7-5 | 5.41 | Charing Cross | - | - |
| 6/8 | 9 Feb 2026 | Gunnedah | 340m | 8 | M3 | - | 6.25L | - | 6 | $2.90 | 7 days ago | 6-6-6-6 | 6.98 | Don't Blush Baby | - | - |
| 2/7 | 2 Feb 2026 | Maitland | 400m | 2 | M3 | - | 1.5L | $435 | 2 | $3.20 | 16 days ago | 2-1-2-2 | - | Dizzy Digby | Jake Peralta 34.1kgs 1.5L | - |
| 5/8 | 17 Jan 2026 | Taree | 300m | 4 | M3 | - | 2.75L | - | 6 | $3.30 | 7 days ago | 7-7-5 | 6.69 | Clock the Zipper | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Kasreyn
Trained at
Kundle Kundle
Owners
James Goddard
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| James Goddard | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Without a win since October last year and well below its best. Limit to wider exotics.
Age
26/02/2022
Sex
Black - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
48-6-12-8
Career
73-10-15-11
Prize Money
$24,116
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
14 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 73-10-15-11 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 48-6-12-8 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 14% | 0% | 0% | 13% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 49% | 0% | 0% | 54% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6/8 | 18 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 3 | M3 | - | 8.75L | - | 7 | $4.40 | 3 days ago | 4-6-6 | 6.65 | Extreme Beast | - | - |
| 6/8 | 15 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 12 | M3 | - | 12.25L | - | 8 | $15.00 | 7 days ago | 4-5-6 | 6.6 | Ripped Raccoon | - | - |
| 3/8 | 8 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 6 | 5 | - | 2.0L | $325 | 4 | $8.00 | 11 days ago | 4-4-3 | 6.59 | Cyclone Sebas | - | Dynamic Rebel 28.2kgs 2.0L |
| 5/8 | 27 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 3 | M2 | - | 4.25L | - | 7 | $10.00 | 45 days ago | 8-6-5 | 6.68 | Midweek Scotches | - | - |
| 6/7 | 13 May 2026 | Taree | 300m | 3 | 5 | - | 9.25L | - | 6 | $61.00 | 4 days ago | 2-7-6 | 6.66 | Fireball Zed | - | - |
| 7/8 | 9 May 2026 | Taree | 300m | 5 | M2 | - | 9.25L | - | 8 | $12.00 | 32 days ago | 1-5-7 | 6.63 | Kiarni Bolt | - | - |
| 6/7 | 7 Apr 2026 | Grafton | 350m | 7 | 5 | - | 3.75L | - | 2 | $6.50 | 13 days ago | 3-6-6 | 4.22, 15.16 | Reality Zero | - | - |
| 8/8 | 25 Mar 2026 | Taree | 300m | 5 | 5 | - | 10.75L | - | 6 | $23.00 | 21 days ago | 8-8-8 | 6.79 | Calla Naughty | - | - |
| 6/8 | 4 Mar 2026 | Taree | 300m | 4 | 5 | - | 7.75L | - | 4 | $16.00 | 7 days ago | 4-7-6 | 6.68 | Midnight Dash | - | - |
| 5/8 | 25 Feb 2026 | Taree | 300m | 3 | 5 | - | 7.0L | - | 4 | $4.40 | 7 days ago | 2-6-5 | 6.6 | Majestic Tyson | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Aussie Infrared
Dam
Sandave Rebel
Trained at
Brombin
Owners
Richard Taffe
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Richard Taffe | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Been mixing its form but is a winner in handy time this course and this field suits. Danger.
Age
31/05/2022
Sex
Black - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
3-1-0-0
Career
21-6-1-2
Prize Money
$12,005
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 21-6-1-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 3-1-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 29% | 0% | 0% | 33% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 43% | 0% | 0% | 33% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/8 | 25 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 3 | M3 | - | 5.75L | - | 2 | $1.80 | 7 days ago | 5-3-5 | 6.51 | Bedazzled Jewel | - | - |
| 1/8 | 18 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 3 | M3 | - | 2.25L | $875 | 1 | $4.00 | 7 days ago | 3-1-1 | 6.49 | Extreme Beast | - | Fire Motto |
| 7/7 | 11 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 10 | M3 | - | 6.75L | - | 7 | $3.60 | 247 days ago | 7-5-7 | 6.66 | Keylin | - | - |
| 5/7 | 6 Nov 2025 | Richmond Straight | 324m | 6 | 4 | - | 2.75L | - | 8 | $1.35 | 3 days ago | 3-4-5-5 | 7.14, 12.71 | Spencer Fury | - | - |
| 1/8 | 3 Nov 2025 | Richmond Straight | 324m | 6 | 4 | - | 1.75L | $1,675 | 8 | $5.00 | 13 days ago | 3-1-1-1 | 7.0, 12.36 | Extreme Beast | - | Fumbles |
| FELL/8 | 21 Oct 2025 | Bulli | 340m | 11 | 5 | - | - | - | 6 | - | 7 days ago | 0 | - | Whistle Wave | - | Extreme Beast 35.7kgs |
| 6/8 | 14 Oct 2025 | Bulli | 400m | 8 | 5 | - | 9.0L | - | 5 | $71.00 | 8 days ago | 4-3-5-6 | 6.56 | O'keefe | - | - |
| 3/7 | 6 Oct 2025 | Richmond Straight | 324m | 6 | 4 | - | 2.25L | $375 | 1 | $10.00 | 8 days ago | 3-3-3-3 | 6.93, 12.22 | Miraculous Tommy | - | Extreme Beast 35.8kgs 2.25L |
| 1/8 | 28 Sep 2025 | Richmond | 401m | 6 | 5 | - | 0.75L | $1,475 | 4 | $3.20 | 9 days ago | 5-3-2-1 | 6.9, 11.89 | Extreme Beast | - | Wangaroa Wally |
| 4/7 | 19 Sep 2025 | Richmond | 401m | 8 | 5 | - | 9.75L | $75 | 8 | $3.50 | 5 days ago | 7-6-4-4 | 6.97, 11.94 | Shot of Magic | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Beast Unleashed
Dam
Sweet Ella
Trained at
Auburn
Owners
George Tambakis
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kevin Barton | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Consistent chaser rarely too far away this track and trip. Red box is OK. Each way claims.
Age
22/11/2021
Sex
Black - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
55-5-8-15
Career
116-6-10-25
Prize Money
$17,973
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 116-6-10-25 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 55-5-8-15 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 5% | 0% | 0% | 9% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 35% | 0% | 0% | 51% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/8 | 25 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 3 | M3 | - | 4.75L | $150 | 7 | $26.00 | 7 days ago | 4-4-3 | 6.6 | Bedazzled Jewel | - | Little Whacker 28.8kgs 4.75L |
| 5/8 | 18 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 3 | M3 | - | 8.5L | - | 8 | $17.00 | 14 days ago | 2-5-5 | 6.62 | Extreme Beast | - | - |
| 2/7 | 4 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 10 | M3 | - | 4.25L | $250 | 1 | $14.00 | 7 days ago | 4-3-2 | 6.52 | She's Silky | Little Whacker 28.9kgs 4.25L | - |
| 1/7 | 27 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 9 | 5 | - | 0.75L | $875 | 2 | $2.60 | 10 days ago | 4-1-1 | 6.53 | Little Whacker | - | Banjo's Fernando |
| 4/8 | 17 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 12 | 5 | - | 6.0L | $75 | 7 | $11.00 | 4 days ago | 2-2-4 | 6.58 | Beautiful Banter | - | - |
| 3/8 | 13 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 6 | 5 | - | 3.75L | $150 | 5 | $14.00 | 7 days ago | 4-3-3 | 6.55 | Reel 'Em Harada | - | Little Whacker 29.1kgs 3.75L |
| 5/8 | 6 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 7 | M3 | - | 7.0L | - | 4 | $34.00 | 28 days ago | 2-3-5 | 6.54 | Pippa | - | - |
| 4/7 | 9 May 2026 | Ladbrokes Gardens | 272m | 2 | 5 | - | 3.0L | $75 | 8 | $5.50 | 7 days ago | 4-4-4-4 | 4.56 | Ultra Special | - | - |
| 5/8 | 2 May 2026 | Taree | 300m | 4 | M3 | - | 4.5L | - | 4 | $6.00 | 7 days ago | 2-4-5 | 6.67 | She's Silky | - | - |
| 3/6 | 25 Apr 2026 | Taree | 300m | 8 | 5 | - | 2.0L | $150 | 4 | $9.00 | 3 days ago | 2-2-3 | 6.53 | Koda Mulwee | - | Little Whacker 28.8kgs 2.0L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Zipping Garth
Dam
Eager Doll
Trained at
Coolongolook
Owners
Lisa Hutton
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lisa Hutton | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Without a win since January and hasn't fired in five goes this trip here. Looking elsewhere.
Age
04/06/2022
Sex
Black - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
5-0-0-1
Career
123-8-10-15
Prize Money
$19,404
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 123-8-10-15 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 5-0-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 7% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 27% | 0% | 0% | 20% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6/7 | 27 Jul 2026 | Maitland | 400m | 4 | 5 | - | 11.5L | - | 6 | $61.00 | 6 days ago | 3-4-6-6 | 5.41 | Hello Aerial | - | - |
| 5/7 | 21 Jul 2026 | Gosford | 388m | 12 | M3 | - | 13.25L | - | 4 | $21.00 | 4 days ago | 5-7-6-5 | 10.59 | Tilly Tippett | - | - |
| 3/7 | 17 Jul 2026 | Richmond | 320m | 4 | M3 | - | 4.25L | $325 | 5 | $13.00 | 13 days ago | 1-1-1-3 | 2.17, 7.76 | Dandy Redeemer | - | Mekong Ruby 22.8kgs 4.25L |
| 7/7 | 4 Jul 2026 | Ladbrokes Gardens | 400m | 12 | 5 | - | 14.25L | - | 7 | $19.00 | 3 days ago | 1-4-3-7 | - | Lektra Bella | - | - |
| 3/8 | 1 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 12 | 5 | - | 4.75L | $325 | 6 | $17.00 | 11 days ago | 4-2-3 | 6.64 | Rocky Bell | - | Mekong Ruby 23kgs 4.75L |
| 8/8 | 20 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 10 | M3 | - | 15.75L | - | 7 | $81.00 | 96 days ago | 4-5-8 | 6.67 | Midweek Scotches | - | - |
| 8/8 | 16 Mar 2026 | Dubbo | 318m | 9 | 5 | - | 14.25L | - | 3 | $51.00 | 4 days ago | 7-6-8-8 | 4.95 | Fusion Rose | - | - |
| 6/8 | 12 Mar 2026 | Ladbrokes Gardens | 272m | 6 | 5 | - | 8.75L | - | 3 | $41.00 | 9 days ago | 5-7-6 | 4.65 | Diva's Delight | - | - |
| 8/8 | 3 Mar 2026 | Gosford | 388m | 10 | 4 | - | 16.25L | - | 6 | $101.00 | 5 days ago | 8-8-8-8 | 10.66 | Impatient Rose | - | - |
| 6/8 | 26 Feb 2026 | Ladbrokes Gardens | 272m | 4 | 4 | - | 9.0L | - | 5 | $71.00 | 26 days ago | 5-8-6 | 4.64 | Young Energy | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Flying Ricciardo
Dam
Hunter Lidcombe
Trained at
Gorokan
Owners
Roy O'Malley
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Roy O'Malley | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Fair beginner sticks on OK. Has placed this trip here in fair time. Can add value to exotics.
Age
15/03/2022
Sex
Black - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
2-0-0-1
Career
58-5-11-12
Prize Money
$18,766
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
28 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 58-5-11-12 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 2-0-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 9% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 48% | 0% | 0% | 50% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/7 | 4 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 10 | M3 | - | 8.0L | - | 5 | $3.90 | 3 days ago | 6-5-5 | 6.64 | She's Silky | - | - |
| 5/8 | 1 Jul 2026 | Richmond | 401m | 6 | 5 | - | 6.0L | - | 5 | $71.00 | 5 days ago | 5-5-6-5 | 7.06, 12.28 | Hendrix | - | - |
| 6/8 | 26 Jun 2026 | Richmond | 401m | 5 | M3 | - | 7.25L | - | 3 | $12.00 | 6 days ago | 8-8-6-6 | - | Goodbye Mate | - | - |
| 3/8 | 20 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 10 | M3 | - | 5.75L | $150 | 5 | $34.00 | 4 days ago | 7-4-3 | 6.66 | Midweek Scotches | - | Not Definite 33.2kgs 5.75L |
| 7/7 | 16 Jun 2026 | Bulli | 340m | 4 | M3 | - | 6.5L | - | 2 | $12.00 | 56 days ago | 7-7-7-7 | 3.49 | Tommy's Hitman | - | - |
| 3/8 | 21 Apr 2026 | Bulli | 340m | 3 | M3 | - | 6.25L | $325 | 4 | $5.00 | 6 days ago | 7-7-4-3 | 3.5 | Midnight Star | - | Not Definite 32kgs 6.25L |
| 2/7 | 15 Apr 2026 | Richmond | 320m | 11 | M3 | - | 2.0L | $435 | 6 | $3.50 | 6 days ago | 4-4-3-2 | 2.24, 7.83 | Beth Dutton | Not Definite 31.3kgs 2.0L | - |
| 6/7 | 9 Apr 2026 | Wentworth Park | 520m | 3 | M3 | - | 6.5L | - | 6 | $10.00 | 9 days ago | 3-3-6-6 | 5.69, 18.8 | Gillenbah Tiger | - | - |
| 3/8 | 31 Mar 2026 | Gosford | 388m | 4 | M3 | - | 1.75L | $325 | 1 | $3.40 | 6 days ago | 5-6-4-3 | 10.66 | Let's Trot Fox | - | Not Definite 31.2kgs 1.75L |
| 5/6 | 25 Mar 2026 | Richmond | 401m | 11 | 5 | - | 7.0L | - | 7 | $41.00 | 3 days ago | 4-4-4-5 | 6.87, 11.97 | Layla's Lilly | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Barcia Bale
Dam
Solar Sky
Trained at
South Kempsey
Owners
Simone Gittoes
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Vicki Byrnes | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Seven-time winner this course but been below its best for some time. Needs it easier these days.
Age
18/12/2021
Sex
Red Bdl - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
40-7-6-7
Career
80-17-15-13
Prize Money
$37,644
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
28 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 80-17-15-13 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 40-7-6-7 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 21% | 0% | 0% | 18% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 56% | 0% | 0% | 50% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4/8 | 4 Jul 2026 | Taree | 300m | 11 | M3 | - | 3.75L | $75 | 4 | $7.00 | 14 days ago | 4-2-4 | 6.58 | Stole My Bone | - | - |
| 3/8 | 20 Jun 2026 | Taree | 300m | 11 | M3 | - | 1.75L | $150 | 5 | $5.00 | 24 days ago | 2-1-3 | 6.54 | Jake Peralta | - | Catch the Tiger 30.2kgs 1.75L |
| 7/7 | 27 May 2026 | Taree | 300m | 4 | 5 | - | 19.75L | - | 5 | $21.00 | 7 days ago | 5-6-7 | 6.87 | Hunterview Lad | - | - |
| 7/8 | 20 May 2026 | Taree | 300m | 4 | 5 | - | 12.5L | - | 8 | $5.00 | 28 days ago | 5-6-7 | 6.68 | White Earner | - | - |
| 7/7 | 22 Apr 2026 | Taree | 300m | 9 | 5 | - | 8.75L | - | 4 | $4.80 | 7 days ago | 6-6-7 | 6.78 | Magic Silver | - | - |
| 8/8 | 15 Apr 2026 | Taree | 300m | 6 | 4 | - | 12.75L | - | 8 | $14.00 | 4 days ago | 8-7-8 | 6.63 | Golden Sunset | - | - |
| 2/8 | 11 Apr 2026 | Taree | 300m | 2 | M3 | - | 10.75L | $250 | 8 | $7.50 | 17 days ago | 6-3-2 | 6.59 | Ripped Raccoon | Catch the Tiger 30.5kgs 10.75L | - |
| 3/8 | 25 Mar 2026 | Taree | 300m | 12 | M3 | - | 5.75L | $325 | 1 | $23.00 | 4 days ago | 3-2-3 | 6.5 | Ripped Raccoon | - | Catch the Tiger 30.9kgs 5.75L |
| 2/8 | 21 Mar 2026 | Taree | 300m | 3 | M3 | - | 1.25L | $250 | 6 | $7.00 | 7 days ago | 3-4-2 | 6.63 | Frank Chana | Catch the Tiger 31.5kgs 1.25L | - |
| 4/8 | 14 Mar 2026 | Taree | 300m | 12 | M2 | - | 9.0L | $75 | 4 | $9.50 | 52 days ago | 4-4-4 | 6.65 | Queen's Wharf | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Catch The Thief
Dam
Chickiano
Trained at
Killawarra
Owners
Brian Smoothy
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Brian Smoothy | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Clocked decent time winning from box two here this trip last month. Unplaced in three goes since. This is easier. Can bounce back.