Ballarat R2 GREYHOUND ADOPTION PROGRAM
Greyhound Adoption Program
6:42pm • 450m6:42pm • 450m
Age
20/12/2023
Sex
Black - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
4-0-1-0
Career
8-1-1-0
Prize Money
$814
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 8-1-1-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 4-0-1-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 13% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 25% | 0% | 0% | 25% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6/6 | 29 Oct 2025 | Meadows | 525m | 1 | Maiden | - | 23.75L | - | 2 | $18.00 | 7 days ago | 6 | 5.32675 | Ivory Hamada | - | - |
| 4/8 | 22 Oct 2025 | Meadows | 525m | 1 | Maiden | - | 4.5L | - | 1 | $7.00 | 7 days ago | 4 | 5.31 | Rev Ian | - | - |
| 7/8 | 15 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 2 | Maiden | - | 16.5L | - | 8 | $10.00 | 7 days ago | 7 | 7.002 | Espoir | - | - |
| 6/8 | 8 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 6 | Maiden | - | 6.0L | - | 1 | $14.00 | 7 days ago | 6 | 6.7325 | Kiwi George | - | - |
| 2/7 | 1 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 2 | Maiden | - | 0.25L | - | 3 | $16.00 | 5 days ago | 2 | - | Kiwi George | Ivory Japan 32.1kgs 0.25L | - |
| 7/8 | 26 Sep 2025 | Geelong | 460m | 1 | Maiden | - | 15.25L | - | 6 | $21.00 | 23 days ago | 7 | 6.961 | Urana Quasar | - | - |
| 6/8 | 3 Sep 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 4 | Maiden | - | 13.75L | - | 4 | $10.00 | - | 6 | - | Zari Elaine | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Superior Panama
Dam
Lala Ivory
Trained at
Claremont
Owners
A Brazendale & P Brazendale
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thomas Dailly | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Far from disgraced last time, looks the danger
Age
16/01/2024
Sex
Rf - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-0-1
Career
3-0-1-1
Prize Money
$5,555
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
6 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 3-0-1-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-0-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 67% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/7 | 30 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 5 | Maiden | - | 9.75L | - | 7 | $4.20 | 71 days ago | 3 | 6.5675 | Tennessee Kade | - | Believe Again 31.5kgs 9.75L |
| 6/7 | 20 Aug 2025 | Meadows | 525m | 1 | Maiden | - | 10.25L | - | 6 | $3.00 | - | 6 | 5.205 | He's Got Speed | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Feral Franky
Dam
Rosie Posie
Trained at
Casey (C)
Owners
Dennis Trewin
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Geall | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Well beaten in both runs, wide the journey
Age
25/01/2024
Sex
F - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
2-0-0-0
Career
3-0-0-1
Prize Money
$260
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 3-0-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 2-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 33% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6/7 | 29 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 1 | Maiden | - | 9.0L | - | 3 | $7.50 | 7 days ago | 6 | 6.76 | Kaelix Blaze | - | - |
| 6/7 | 22 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 2 | Maiden | - | 6.5L | - | 6 | $4.80 | - | 6 | - | Ivory Ramen | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
BALLYMAC BEST
Dam
Trending Zari
Trained at
Greater Geelong (C)
Owners
DAILLY GREYHOUND FARMS
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thomas Dailly | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
No luck on debut, can make amends, threat
Age
20/01/2024
Sex
Black - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
0-0-0-0
Career
2-0-0-0
Prize Money
$1,755
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 2-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/6 | 31 Oct 2025 | Geelong | 460m | 1 | Maiden | - | 14.25L | - | 6 | $7.50 | - | 5 | - | Dramatical | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
El Grand Senor
Dam
Zipping Eve
Trained at
Two Wells
Owners
Al Williams
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Matthew Lanigan | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Improving type, can show early pace, place
Age
25/01/2024
Sex
Rf - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
6-0-0-1
Career
9-0-1-1
Prize Money
$7,011
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
9 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 9-0-1-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 6-0-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 22% | 0% | 0% | 17% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/7 | 27 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 1 | Maiden | - | 5.25L | $160 | 5 | $16.00 | 5 days ago | 3 | 6.7825 | Slay | - | Zari Desiree 32.7kgs 5.25L |
| 5/8 | 22 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 1 | Maiden | - | 10.25L | - | 8 | $8.00 | 5 days ago | 5 | - | Paw Sapphire | - | - |
| 2/7 | 17 Oct 2025 | Geelong | 460m | 3 | Maiden | - | 6.5L | - | 2 | $8.00 | 9 days ago | 2 | 6.7335, 11.64 | Rev Gordon | Zari Desiree 32.8kgs 6.5L | - |
| 7/8 | 8 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 5 | Maiden | - | 13.5L | - | 5 | $18.00 | 7 days ago | 7 | 7.0095 | Ivory Mihara | - | - |
| 7/7 | 1 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 2 | Maiden | - | 10.25L | - | 7 | $21.00 | 8 days ago | 7 | - | Kiwi George | - | - |
| 7/8 | 23 Sep 2025 | Geelong | 460m | 3 | Maiden | - | 10.0L | - | 1 | $15.00 | 13 days ago | 7 | 6.78 | Rev Oberon | - | - |
| 7/7 | 10 Sep 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 2 | Maiden | - | 12.75L | - | 1 | $7.50 | 7 days ago | 7 | - | Bomb Over | - | - |
| 6/7 | 3 Sep 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 1 | Maiden | - | 9.25L | - | 6 | $8.00 | - | 6 | - | Star Rebel | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
BALLYMAC BEST
Dam
Trending Zari
Trained at
Moorabool (S)
Owners
Alison Pengelly
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| JOANNE PENGELLY | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Gave a great sight last time out, hard to reel in
Age
25/01/2024
Sex
Rf - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
2-0-1-1
Career
3-0-1-1
Prize Money
$5,305
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 3-0-1-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 2-0-1-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 67% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/7 | 29 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 2 | Maiden | - | 0.25L | - | 3 | $3.40 | 7 days ago | 2 | - | Rev Ken | Zari Bettina 30.4kgs 0.25L | - |
| 3/7 | 22 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 2 | Maiden | - | 2.75L | - | 4 | $4.00 | - | 3 | - | Ivory Ramen | - | Zari Bettina 30.1kgs 2.75L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
BALLYMAC BEST
Dam
Trending Zari
Trained at
Greater Shepparton (C)
Owners
SCOTT FORTITUDE
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thomas Dailly | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Placed in three of six here, must keep safe
Age
25/01/2024
Sex
Black - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
6-0-1-2
Career
9-0-1-3
Prize Money
$1,466
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 9-0-1-3 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 6-0-1-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 44% | 0% | 0% | 50% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/7 | 29 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 1 | Maiden | - | 7.0L | - | 4 | $3.60 | 7 days ago | 3 | 6.7775 | Kaelix Blaze | - | Zari Exact 32.6kgs 7.0L |
| 8/8 | 22 Oct 2025 | Meadows | 525m | 1 | Maiden | - | 17.5L | - | 4 | $2.80 | 7 days ago | 8 | 5.3275 | Rev Ian | - | - |
| 3/8 | 15 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 3 | Maiden | - | 2.25L | - | 4 | $3.20 | 7 days ago | 3 | 6.73175 | Whodat Jewel | - | Zari Exact 32.7kgs 2.25L |
| 2/8 | 8 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 5 | Maiden | - | 0.25L | - | 2 | $8.00 | 7 days ago | 2 | 6.6875, 11.6 | Ivory Mihara | Zari Exact 32.5kgs 0.25L | - |
| 4/7 | 1 Oct 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 3 | Maiden | - | 5.5L | - | 6 | $4.20 | 8 days ago | 4 | - | Major Impact | - | - |
| 3/8 | 23 Sep 2025 | Geelong | 460m | 3 | Maiden | - | 4.0L | - | 5 | $21.00 | 13 days ago | 3 | 6.71, 11.52 | Rev Oberon | - | Zari Exact 32.8kgs 4.0L |
| 7/8 | 10 Sep 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 4 | Maiden | - | 13.25L | - | 4 | $4.00 | 7 days ago | 7 | 6.87 | Kiwi Henry | - | - |
| 5/7 | 3 Sep 2025 | Ballarat | 450m | 3 | Maiden | - | 9.5L | - | 2 | $6.00 | - | 5 | - | Red River Rogue | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
BALLYMAC BEST
Dam
Trending Zari
Trained at
Claremont
Owners
Allison Brazendale
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thomas Dailly | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |







Race comment
Steady to date, needs luck early, place best