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7:37pm • 425m7:37pm • 425m
Age
11/02/2022
Sex
Fawn - Dog
Breeding
Fernando Bale - My Dewana Penny
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
3-0-2-0
Career
35-8-4-5
Prize Money
$23,120
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
6 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 35-8-4-5 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 3-0-2-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 23% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 49% | 0% | 0% | 67% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/7 | 23 Nov 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 3 | 5 | - | 6.0L | $1,000 | 6 | $1.40 | 3 days ago | 1 | 8.45 | Quick Biscuit | - | Impress Simba |
| 4/7 | 20 Nov 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 14 | 5 | - | 3.0L | $75 | 7 | $2.30 | 6 days ago | 4 | 8.6275 | Kaluna Chaos | - | - |
| 1/7 | 14 Nov 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 5 | 5 | - | 1.5L | $1,000 | 7 | $3.70 | 66 days ago | 1 | 8.35 | Quick Biscuit | - | Paw Marvel |
| 3/6 | 9 Sep 2024 | Sandown Park | 515m | 10 | 5 | - | 5.25L | $345 | 5 | $1.50 | 5 days ago | 3 | 5.32 | Idyllic Luther | - | Quick Biscuit 30.6kgs 5.25L |
| 4/8 | 4 Sep 2024 | Meadows | 525m | 12 | 5 | - | 6.75L | $75 | 3 | $8.10 | 9 days ago | 4 | 5.3225 | Cloud Scootin' | - | - |
| 3/8 | 26 Aug 2024 | Sandown Park | 515m | 11 | 5 | - | 6.5L | $345 | 7 | $18.70 | 8 days ago | 3 | 5.215 | White Crest | - | Quick Biscuit 30.6kgs 6.5L |
| 1/8 | 18 Aug 2024 | Ballarat | 545m | 8 | 5 | - | 4.0L | $1,150 | 1 | $3.40 | 7 days ago | 1 | 6.7775, 16.61 | Quick Biscuit | - | Chirp Third |
| 6/8 | 11 Aug 2024 | Ballarat | 450m | 11 | 5 | - | 4.0L | - | 1 | $2.50 | 6 days ago | 6 | 6.865 | Lamia Ernie | - | - |
| 3/8 | 5 Aug 2024 | Ballarat | 450m | 8 | 5 | - | 3.0L | $160 | 4 | $8.00 | 5 days ago | 3 | 6.8225 | Ragin' Ablett | - | Quick Biscuit 31.8kgs 3.0L |
| 7/7 | 31 Jul 2024 | Meadows | 525m | 10 | 5 | - | 16.0L | - | 4 | $16.00 | 63 days ago | 7 | 5.3065 | Irish Lucy | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
My Dewana Penny
Trained at
Richmond Vale
Owners
John Clout
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MATTHEW MARSHALL | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Brilliant effort three runs back, hard to reel in
Age
30/11/2022
Sex
Rf - Dog
Breeding
Fernando Bale - Quintana Bale
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
2-1-1-0
Career
21-3-8-2
Prize Money
$50,355
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
9 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 21-3-8-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 2-1-1-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 14% | 0% | 0% | 50% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 62% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/7 | 20 Nov 2024 | Ballarat | 450m | 7 | 5 | - | 6.5L | - | 5 | $5.00 | 7 days ago | 5 | 6.6775 | Black Viper | - | - |
| 5/8 | 13 Nov 2024 | Ballarat | 450m | 5 | 5 | - | 4.5L | - | 7 | $3.10 | 5 days ago | 5 | 6.736 | Dollar Bucks | - | - |
| 2/8 | 8 Nov 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 3 | 5 | - | 0.25L | $600 | 1 | $6.00 | 11 days ago | 2 | 6.47, 11.26 | Paw Fredrick | Paw Mantra 30.7kgs 0.25L | - |
| 2/7 | 28 Oct 2024 | Sandown Park | 515m | 9 | 5 | - | 10.25L | $690 | 6 | $3.50 | 3 days ago | 2 | 5.2545 | Minter Frost | Paw Mantra 31.3kgs 10.25L | - |
| 3/8 | 25 Oct 2024 | Geelong | 460m | 10 | 5 | - | 3.0L | $345 | 3 | $12.00 | 7 days ago | 3 | 6.574 | Paw Roxy | - | Paw Mantra 31.3kgs 3.0L |
| 2/8 | 18 Oct 2024 | Geelong | 460m | 3 | 5 | - | 1.5L | $600 | 4 | $5.30 | 7 days ago | 2 | 6.71 | Frog March | Paw Mantra 31.5kgs 1.5L | - |
| 4/8 | 11 Oct 2024 | Geelong | 460m | 6 | 5 | - | 4.5L | $75 | 7 | $13.90 | 7 days ago | 4 | 6.60175 | Description | - | - |
| 3/8 | 4 Oct 2024 | Geelong | 460m | 10 | 5 | - | 4.0L | $300 | 1 | $2.60 | 5 days ago | 3 | 6.6 | Xoel Bale | - | Paw Mantra 30.8kgs 4.0L |
| 5/8 | 29 Sep 2024 | Sale | 435m | 7 | 5 | - | 8.75L | - | 3 | $8.50 | 4 days ago | 5 | 5.262 | Kisauni | - | - |
| 1/8 | 25 Sep 2024 | Ballarat | 450m | 10 | 6 | - | 1.25L | $1,950 | 2 | $2.20 | 3 days ago | 1 | 6.52, 11.28 | Paw Mantra | - | Lochinvar Chaos |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Quintana Bale
Trained at
Greater Geelong (C)
Owners
Brendan Wheeler
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MARK DELBRIDGE | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Gutsy effort to score last time, keep safe
Age
19/12/2021
Sex
F - Dog
Breeding
Superior Panama - Maggie Marvel
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
2-1-0-1
Career
11-3-2-3
Prize Money
$26,793
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 11-3-2-3 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 2-1-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 27% | 0% | 0% | 50% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 73% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/7 | 22 Nov 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 9 | 6 | - | 1.75L | $1,950 | 8 | $13.60 | 7 days ago | 1 | 6.78 | Ari Gold | - | Perfect Soul |
| 3/8 | 15 Nov 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 10 | 6 | - | 1.75L | $300 | 2 | $14.40 | 4 days ago | 3 | 6.771 | Spirited Oliver | - | Ari Gold 35.1kgs 1.75L |
| 4/8 | 11 Nov 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 10 | 6 | - | 7.0L | $75 | 8 | $12.00 | 14 days ago | 4 | 8.73425 | Zesty Boy | - | - |
| 6/8 | 28 Oct 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 10 | 6 | - | 14.75L | - | 1 | $6.50 | 329 days ago | 6 | 9.9475 | Cosmic Reward | - | - |
| 1/8 | 4 Dec 2023 | Shepparton | 390m | 4 | 7 | - | 4.75L | $1,950 | 5 | $4.20 | 7 days ago | 1 | 8.65 | Ari Gold | - | Frank Grimes |
| 4/8 | 27 Nov 2023 | Shepparton | 390m | 3 | 7 | - | 4.5L | $275 | 4 | $20.60 | 7 days ago | 4 | 8.6745 | Lakeview Vincent | - | - |
| 3/7 | 20 Nov 2023 | Shepparton | 390m | 4 | 7 | - | 6.25L | $300 | 7 | $5.20 | 7 days ago | 3 | 8.73775 | Lakeview Vincent | - | Ari Gold 34.7kgs 6.25L |
| 1/8 | 13 Nov 2023 | Shepparton | 390m | 1 | Maiden | - | 4.0L | $1,680 | 1 | $1.50 | 28 days ago | 1 | 8.665 | Ari Gold | - | Mystery Terms |
| 2/8 | 16 Oct 2023 | Shepparton | 390m | 1 | Maiden | - | 0.25L | $520 | 6 | $5.60 | 7 days ago | 2 | 8.6875 | Kentucky Gus | Ari Gold 34.3kgs 0.25L | - |
| 2/7 | 9 Oct 2023 | Shepparton | 390m | 2 | Maiden | - | 2.5L | $520 | 1 | $4.50 | - | 2 | 8.842 | Tropicana | Ari Gold 33.9kgs 2.5L | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Superior Panama
Dam
Maggie Marvel
Trained at
Greater Bendigo (C)
Owners
Mark Palmer
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| JORDAN FORMOSA | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Honest type but the draw is a worry, place
Age
05/08/2022
Sex
Wh & Blk - Dog
Breeding
Need My Moneynow - Fortuna Bale
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
5-0-1-1
Career
40-6-6-3
Prize Money
$13,390
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 40-6-6-3 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 5-0-1-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 15% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 38% | 0% | 0% | 40% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/7 | 22 Nov 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 12 | 5 | - | 6.25L | $600 | 1 | $5.40 | 4 days ago | 2 | 6.64 | Myola Nick | Paw Marvel 30.5kgs 6.25L | - |
| 5/9 | 18 Nov 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 13 | 5 | - | 10.25L | - | 3 | $3.20 | 4 days ago | 5 | 8.70075 | Miss Melee | - | - |
| 2/7 | 14 Nov 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 5 | 5 | - | 1.5L | $320 | 8 | $1.70 | 3 days ago | 2 | 8.5075 | Quick Biscuit | Paw Marvel 30.6kgs 1.5L | - |
| 2/10 | 11 Nov 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 13 | 5 | - | 1.75L | $320 | 8 | $6.50 | 5 days ago | 2 | 8.52 | Volkanovski | Paw Marvel 30.7kgs 1.75L | - |
| 6/8 | 6 Nov 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 3 | 5 | - | 5.75L | - | 7 | $12.00 | 12 days ago | 6 | 8.70125 | Jacaerys Bale | - | - |
| 4/8 | 25 Oct 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 12 | 5 | - | 5.0L | $75 | 7 | $10.60 | 3 days ago | 4 | 6.78525 | Oprah Bale | - | - |
| 1/8 | 22 Oct 2024 | Warragul | 400m | 4 | 5 | - | 1.0L | $1,950 | 8 | $5.50 | 5 days ago | 1 | 8.437 | Paw Marvel | - | Queston Bale |
| 2/7 | 17 Oct 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 13 | 5 | - | 0.25L | $320 | 2 | $3.80 | 3 days ago | 2 | 8.72 | Kempton Bale | Paw Marvel 31kgs 0.25L | - |
| 4/8 | 14 Oct 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 4 | 5 | - | 3.75L | $50 | 7 | $5.80 | 5 days ago | 4 | 8.78675 | Idyllic Point | - | - |
| 7/9 | 9 Oct 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 14 | 5 | - | 7.25L | - | 5 | $22.40 | 5 days ago | 7 | 8.83325 | Fiery Duel | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Need My Moneynow
Dam
Fortuna Bale
Trained at
Terang
Owners
MARK ROBERTS
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| LUKE HARRIS | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Placed in five of ten here, place hope again
Age
03/01/2021
Sex
Wf - Dog
Breeding
Orson Allen - Mepunga Focus
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
10-0-2-3
Career
48-10-7-6
Prize Money
$28,335
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
6 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 48-10-7-6 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 10-0-2-3 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 21% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 48% | 0% | 0% | 50% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/6 | 23 Nov 2024 | Shepparton | 450m | 6 | 4 | - | 3.0L | $1,000 | 3 | $4.10 | 8 days ago | 1 | 6.645, 11.43 | Dollar Signs | - | Zipping Spartan |
| 4/8 | 15 Nov 2024 | Bendigo | 500m | 6 | 4 | - | 5.75L | $75 | 3 | $30.70 | 7 days ago | 4 | 6.629 | Fernando Duke | - | - |
| 3/7 | 8 Nov 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 4 | 5 | - | 10.25L | $300 | 5 | $8.00 | 14 days ago | 3 | 6.645 | Nikita Bale | - | Dollar Signs 33.8kgs 10.25L |
| 3/8 | 25 Oct 2024 | Bendigo | 500m | 6 | 4 | - | 3.25L | $400 | 1 | $20.80 | 9 days ago | 3 | 6.7075 | No More Games | - | Dollar Signs 33.8kgs 3.25L |
| 7/8 | 16 Oct 2024 | Ballarat | 450m | 7 | 5 | - | 15.75L | - | 3 | $7.50 | 7 days ago | 7 | 6.87175 | Acacia Rocket | - | - |
| 2/7 | 9 Oct 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 10 | 5 | - | 4.0L | $320 | 1 | $3.40 | 21 days ago | 2 | 6.697 | Zipping Clooney | Dollar Signs 33.3kgs 4.0L | - |
| 3/8 | 18 Sep 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 6 | 5 | - | 4.75L | $160 | 7 | $6.20 | 7 days ago | 3 | 6.8615 | Snowfest | - | Dollar Signs 33.9kgs 4.75L |
| 2/8 | 11 Sep 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 10 | 5 | - | 2.0L | $320 | 4 | $7.50 | 77 days ago | 2 | 6.8065 | Zap | Dollar Signs 33.4kgs 2.0L | - |
| 5/8 | 26 Jun 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 9 | 5 | - | 3.25L | - | 8 | $3.00 | 27 days ago | 5 | 6.749 | Militant Storm | - | - |
| 2/8 | 30 May 2024 | Shepparton | 450m | 8 | 4 | - | 3.5L | $320 | 5 | $7.80 | 6 days ago | 2 | 7.1295 | Sha Tin King | Dollar Signs 34.3kgs 3.5L | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Orson Allen
Dam
Mepunga Focus
Trained at
Campaspe (S)
Owners
Aaron Debattista
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AARON DEBATTISTA | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
No luck since resuming, will be fully fit, threat
Age
07/02/2022
Sex
Bd - Dog
Breeding
Fernando Bale - Van Nindi
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
2-0-0-0
Career
22-6-2-4
Prize Money
$49,825
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 22-6-2-4 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 2-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 27% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 55% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/8 | 24 Nov 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 10 | 5 | - | 4.5L | - | 6 | $4.30 | 7 days ago | 5 | 3.9085 | Posh Paws | - | - |
| 3/7 | 17 Nov 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 10 | 5 | - | 3.25L | $300 | 8 | $22.50 | 93 days ago | 3 | 3.9275 | Sheezel | - | Versnellen 29.3kgs 3.25L |
| 4/8 | 16 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 11 | 5 | - | 1.25L | $75 | 6 | $6.50 | 7 days ago | 4 | 6.6725 | Blue Blood | - | - |
| 6/7 | 9 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 10 | 5 | - | 7.5L | - | 4 | $5.10 | 25 days ago | 6 | 6.6875 | Grand Tourer | - | - |
| 4/8 | 15 Jul 2024 | Shepparton | 450m | 6 | 5 | - | 1.5L | $75 | 8 | $2.40 | 5 days ago | 4 | 6.6295 | Tat Leah | - | - |
| 3/8 | 10 Jul 2024 | Ballarat | 450m | 7 | 5 | - | 1.75L | $300 | 7 | $2.40 | 5 days ago | 3 | 6.65 | Paw Zelini | - | Versnellen 30kgs 1.75L |
| 1/8 | 5 Jul 2024 | Geelong | 400m | 12 | 5 | - | 7.5L | $1,950 | 7 | $1.80 | 4 days ago | 1 | 8.33 | Versnellen | - | Super Size Fries |
| 1/8 | 1 Jul 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 11 | 5 | - | 5.75L | $1,950 | 4 | $1.70 | 5 days ago | 1 | 8.39 | Versnellen | - | Rapidfire Serena |
| 1/7 | 26 Jun 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 4 | 5 | - | 9.75L | $1,950 | 2 | $2.20 | 20 days ago | 1 | 8.4 | Versnellen | - | Sarah Starfish |
| 6/8 | 6 Jun 2024 | Ballarat | 450m | 3 | 5 | - | 5.5L | - | 6 | $2.20 | 7 days ago | 6 | 6.7585 | Remo Rodman | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Van Nindi
Trained at
Greater Shepparton (C)
Owners
SCOTT FORTITUDE
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EMMA SCOTT | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Impressive at Ballarat, has early speed, danger
Age
15/05/2021
Sex
Bd - Bitch
Breeding
Hooksy - Leave Me Out
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
2-0-1-0
Career
39-9-6-5
Prize Money
$41,470
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
8 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 39-9-6-5 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 2-0-1-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 23% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 51% | 0% | 0% | 50% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/8 | 21 Nov 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 12 | 5 | - | 3.0L | $300 | 3 | $13.60 | 4 days ago | 3 | 8.4125 | Myrniong Storm | - | Millie 31.2kgs 3.0L |
| 2/7 | 17 Nov 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 9 | 4 | - | 1.0L | $690 | 8 | $19.70 | 11 days ago | 2 | 3.9175 | New Wave Whine | Millie 31.2kgs 1.0L | - |
| 8/8 | 6 Nov 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 7 | 4 | - | 17.0L | - | 7 | $21.00 | 14 days ago | 8 | 8.511 | Zipping Gryllis | - | - |
| 3/10 | 23 Oct 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 13 | 4 | - | 1.25L | $345 | 2 | $10.00 | 6 days ago | 3 | 8.445 | Blame Spencer | - | Millie 31.3kgs 1.25L |
| 1/8 | 17 Oct 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 11 | 5 | - | 0.25L | $1,000 | 6 | $10.30 | 59 days ago | 1 | 8.7045 | Millie | - | Kraken Force |
| 8/8 | 19 Aug 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 11 | 5 | - | 11.5L | - | 2 | $35.80 | 5 days ago | 8 | 8.82925 | Black Dream | - | - |
| 5/8 | 14 Aug 2024 | Ballarat | 450m | 9 | 5 | - | 8.75L | - | 7 | $7.60 | 7 days ago | 5 | 6.685 | Tension Head | - | - |
| 4/6 | 7 Aug 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 4 | 4 | - | 6.25L | $75 | 7 | $26.00 | 3 days ago | 4 | 8.6225 | Where's Walter | - | - |
| 4/8 | 4 Aug 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 4 | 4 | - | 2.75L | $75 | 3 | $17.10 | 18 days ago | 4 | 3.975 | Head Hunter | - | - |
| 1/8 | 17 Jul 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 5 | 5 | - | 0.5L | $1,950 | 3 | $7.50 | 14 days ago | 1 | 8.36175 | Millie | - | Paltrow Bale |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Hooksy
Dam
Leave Me Out
Trained at
Brimbank (C)
Owners
Donald Jarvis
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DONALD JARVIS | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Front runner, will have to work too hard, tested
Age
03/11/2021
Sex
Rf - Dog
Breeding
Barcia Bale - Mercedes Red
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
3-0-0-1
Career
19-4-2-2
Prize Money
$6,510
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 19-4-2-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 3-0-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 21% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 42% | 0% | 0% | 33% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/8 | 24 Nov 2024 | Healesville | 350m | 9 | 5 | - | 1.25L | $1,950 | 6 | $15.40 | 7 days ago | 1 | 6.68 | Especial Charlie | - | Time to Prophet |
| 4/8 | 17 Nov 2024 | Healesville | 350m | 7 | 5 | - | 3.25L | $75 | 2 | $27.10 | 23 days ago | 4 | 6.5845 | All In Ollie | - | - |
| 6/8 | 25 Oct 2024 | Healesville | 350m | 6 | 5 | - | 6.75L | - | 4 | $10.00 | 7 days ago | 6 | 6.78375 | Down South Girl | - | - |
| 2/8 | 18 Oct 2024 | Healesville | 350m | 8 | 5 | - | 0.5L | $320 | 3 | $4.60 | 9 days ago | 2 | 6.6265 | Down South Girl | Especial Charlie 32.3kgs 0.5L | - |
| 2/8 | 9 Oct 2024 | Healesville | 350m | 8 | 5 | - | 3.25L | $320 | 4 | $4.00 | 7 days ago | 2 | 6.626 | Chester Campbell | Especial Charlie 32kgs 3.25L | - |
| 1/7 | 2 Oct 2024 | Healesville | 350m | 5 | 6 | - | 2.0L | $1,000 | 8 | $2.60 | 5 days ago | 1 | 6.65425 | Especial Charlie | - | Crowning Glory |
| 3/8 | 27 Sep 2024 | Healesville | 350m | 5 | 6 | - | 1.0L | $160 | 5 | $7.00 | 8 days ago | 3 | 6.732 | Aston Warrior | - | Especial Charlie 31.7kgs 1.0L |
| 5/8 | 19 Sep 2024 | Healesville | 350m | 7 | 6 | - | 7.5L | - | 2 | $4.80 | 6 days ago | 5 | 6.6525 | Donegal Express | - | - |
| 1/8 | 13 Sep 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 3 | 7 | - | 2.0L | $1,000 | 6 | $2.70 | 10 days ago | 1 | 4.1065 | Especial Charlie | - | Whiskey Splash |
| 6/8 | 3 Sep 2024 | Geelong | 400m | 9 | 7 | - | 10.25L | - | 4 | $17.10 | 12 days ago | 6 | 8.805 | Bombarda Maxima | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Barcia Bale
Dam
Mercedes Red
Trained at
Casey (C)
Owners
Peter Knott
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ELISE KNOTT | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Better than his past two runs, place if runs
Age
13/11/2022
Sex
F - Dog
Breeding
Feral Franky - Junk Food Junkie
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-1-0-0
Career
16-4-2-4
Prize Money
$48,850
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
10 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 16-4-2-4 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-1-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 25% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 63% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6/7 | 19 Nov 2024 | Horsham | 410m | 4 | 5 | - | 11.75L | - | 2 | $3.80 | 7 days ago | 6 | 10.4875 | Ice Ice Baby | - | - |
| 7/7 | 12 Nov 2024 | Warragul | 400m | 4 | 4 | - | 9.25L | - | 1 | $6.50 | 7 days ago | 7 | 8.58 | Burn Along | - | - |
| 3/8 | 5 Nov 2024 | Horsham | 410m | 5 | 5 | - | 4.25L | $345 | 3 | $5.20 | 7 days ago | 3 | 10.795 | Dane Mullane | - | More Beer Please 32kgs 4.25L |
| 1/6 | 29 Oct 2024 | Warragul | 400m | 5 | 5 | - | 2.75L | $1,950 | 5 | $7.50 | 7 days ago | 1 | 8.32 | More Beer Please | - | Fill Your Boots |
| 2/5 | 22 Oct 2024 | Horsham | 410m | 4 | 5 | - | 2.5L | $600 | 7 | $7.30 | 7 days ago | 2 | 10.24 | Super Sequioa | More Beer Please 31.5kgs 2.5L | - |
| 8/8 | 15 Oct 2024 | Horsham | 410m | 11 | 5 | - | 12.5L | - | 8 | $28.80 | 7 days ago | 8 | 10.5525 | Cheap Red Wine | - | - |
| 3/7 | 8 Oct 2024 | Horsham | 410m | 4 | 5 | - | 2.75L | $300 | 3 | $13.20 | 7 days ago | 3 | 10.4175 | Nacho Problem | - | More Beer Please 31.3kgs 2.75L |
| 4/8 | 1 Oct 2024 | Horsham | 410m | 5 | 5 | - | 9.0L | $75 | 1 | $7.50 | 8 days ago | 4 | 10.425 | Myrniong Storm | - | - |
| 1/8 | 23 Sep 2024 | Ballarat | 450m | 7 | 6 | - | 2.0L | $1,000 | 5 | $2.00 | 5 days ago | 1 | 6.84875 | More Beer Please | - | Big Boy Cooper |
| 1/8 | 18 Sep 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 3 | 7 | - | 2.0L | $1,000 | 8 | $1.70 | 5 days ago | 1 | 6.74125 | More Beer Please | - | Dernancourt |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Feral Franky
Dam
Junk Food Junkie
Trained at
Avalon
Owners
Allan Lie
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| JASON SHARP | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Resuming, may need a run or two, tough ask
Age
01/03/2021
Sex
Bd - Bitch
Breeding
Fernando Bale - Kasreyn
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
14-4-1-1
Career
46-12-3-5
Prize Money
$26,445
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
70 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 46-12-3-5 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 14-4-1-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 26% | 0% | 0% | 29% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 43% | 0% | 0% | 43% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8/8 | 20 Sep 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 8 | 4 | - | 15.5L | - | 7 | $24.90 | 33 days ago | 8 | 6.6975 | At My Command | - | - |
| 3/8 | 18 Aug 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 11 | 5 | - | 3.0L | $300 | 3 | $11.50 | 6 days ago | 3 | 3.945 | Irish Nikki | - | Our Girl Roxy 26.6kgs 3.0L |
| 1/8 | 12 Aug 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 3 | 5 | - | 2.75L | $1,950 | 8 | $2.90 | 11 days ago | 1 | 8.36 | Our Girl Roxy | - | Cocktail |
| 1/8 | 1 Aug 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 12 | 5 | - | 3.75L | $1,950 | 5 | $3.90 | 13 days ago | 1 | 8.41 | Our Girl Roxy | - | Spoiler Alert |
| 7/7 | 19 Jul 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 6 | 4 | - | 21.75L | - | 3 | $48.00 | 7 days ago | 7 | 6.55175 | Mock Fish | - | - |
| 6/7 | 12 Jul 2024 | Geelong | 400m | 10 | 5 | - | 13.5L | - | 4 | $7.10 | 11 days ago | 6 | 8.73 | Nikita Bale | - | - |
| 7/8 | 1 Jul 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 9 | 5 | - | 8.75L | - | 8 | $4.60 | 14 days ago | 7 | 8.52 | Winston Town | - | - |
| 3/8 | 17 Jun 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 12 | 5 | - | 2.5L | $300 | 5 | $7.50 | 17 days ago | 3 | 8.3225 | Ayia Neighbour | - | Our Girl Roxy 26.1kgs 2.5L |
| 1/8 | 31 May 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 4 | 5 | - | 2.5L | $1,950 | 8 | $1.70 | 11 days ago | 1 | 6.6375, 11.5 | Our Girl Roxy | - | Deep Purple |
| 5/7 | 20 May 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 3 | 4 | - | 7.25L | - | 5 | $19.50 | 12 days ago | 5 | 8.4525 | Lamia Mila | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Kasreyn
Owners
Greg Frendo
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Greg Frendo | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |










Race comment
Never headed last time, this is harder, place best