Bendigo R12 PETER BROWN CUSTOM HOMES
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Flucs
Open
Today
Fluc -3
Fluc -2
Fluc -1
Win
Age
23/06/2022
Sex
Bebd - Dog
Breeding
Fernando Bale - Palace Lady
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
0-0-0-0
Career
11-3-1-1
Prize Money
$25,756
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
5551612413
Last Run
4 days ago
Win S/Rate
27%
Place S/Rate
45%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 11-3-1-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 27% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 45% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 4 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/5 | 19 Aug 2024 | Horsham | 410m | 4 | 5 | - | 8.0L | $300 | 7 | $6.00 | 4 days ago | 3 | 10.79175 | Jacaerys Bale | - | Baggio 28.8kgs 8.0L |
| 1/8 | 15 Aug 2024 | Warragul | 400m | 9 | 6 | - | 1.25L | $1,000 | 4 | $6.00 | 8 days ago | 1 | 8.47 | Baggio | - | Cersei's Boy |
| 4/7 | 7 Aug 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 10 | 6 | - | 5.0L | $75 | 4 | $10.00 | 6 days ago | 4 | 8.8035 | Takumi Bale | - | - |
| 2/7 | 1 Aug 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 10 | 6 | - | 4.5L | $600 | 3 | $7.60 | 3 days ago | 2 | 8.7775 | Leonardo Zeal | Baggio 29kgs 4.5L | - |
| 1/6 | 29 Jul 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 10 | 7 | - | 6.25L | $1,000 | 5 | $2.10 | 6 days ago | 1 | 8.59 | Baggio | - | Hillbilly Rocky |
| 6/8 | 23 Jul 2024 | Geelong | 460m | 5 | 7 | - | 5.25L | - | 1 | $2.90 | 5 days ago | 6 | 6.7325 | Chasing Chappy | - | - |
| 1/8 | 18 Jul 2024 | Warragul | 400m | 2 | Maiden | - | 5.5L | $1,000 | 8 | $4.00 | 65 days ago | 1 | 8.5775 | Baggio | - | High Finance |
| 5/8 | 14 May 2024 | Geelong | 400m | 2 | Maiden | - | 11.0L | - | 5 | $8.30 | 9 days ago | 5 | 9.0325 | Sudoku Rosie | - | - |
| 5/6 | 5 May 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 1 | Maiden | - | 8.5L | - | 5 | $8.00 | 8 days ago | 5 | 4.18675 | Wild Serena | - | - |
| 5/7 | 27 Apr 2024 | Geelong | 400m | 2 | Maiden | - | 12.75L | - | 3 | $5.60 | 62 days ago | 5 | 8.8075 | Bloodline | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Palace Lady
Trained at
Cardinia (S)
Owners
Adrian Marino
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ROSALIE KERR | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Placed in four of his past four, can threaten
Age
12/12/2020
Sex
F - Dog
Breeding
Konomi - Call Me Bubbles
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
38-4-10-9
Career
68-10-16-13
Prize Money
$60,231
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
1642634223
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
15%
Place S/Rate
57%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 68-10-16-13 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 38-4-10-9 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 15% | 0% | 0% | 11% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 57% | 0% | 0% | 61% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 6 | - | - | 3 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/8 | 16 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 12 | 5 | - | 1.5L | $300 | 8 | $3.60 | 7 days ago | 3 | 6.76425 | Time to Prophet | - | Broadside 35.6kgs 1.5L |
| 2/7 | 9 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 3 | 5 | - | 1.75L | $600 | 1 | $3.00 | 7 days ago | 2 | 6.62 | Lethal Avenger | Broadside 35.7kgs 1.75L | - |
| 2/8 | 2 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 9 | 5 | - | 5.25L | $600 | 5 | $3.10 | 14 days ago | 2 | 6.6725 | Sydney Show | Broadside 35.7kgs 5.25L | - |
| 4/8 | 19 Jul 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 10 | 5 | - | 6.25L | $75 | 5 | $3.20 | 7 days ago | 4 | 6.79525 | Spanish Bullet | - | - |
| 3/8 | 12 Jul 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 9 | 5 | - | 6.0L | $300 | 7 | $8.20 | 7 days ago | 3 | 6.742 | Black Dream | - | Broadside 36kgs 6.0L |
| 6/8 | 5 Jul 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 9 | 5 | - | 4.75L | - | 7 | $9.00 | 7 days ago | 6 | 6.6825 | Mistress Oasis | - | - |
| 2/8 | 28 Jun 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 7 | 5 | - | 2.0L | $600 | 1 | $11.90 | 7 days ago | 2 | 6.6075 | Leo Bale | Broadside 35.3kgs 2.0L | - |
| 4/8 | 21 Jun 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 10 | 5 | - | 6.5L | $75 | 4 | $8.00 | 4 days ago | 4 | 6.6665 | Top Payer | - | - |
| 6/8 | 17 Jun 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 11 | 4 | - | 6.75L | - | 4 | $6.30 | 6 days ago | 6 | 8.71925 | Crush Your Rush | - | - |
| 1/8 | 11 Jun 2024 | Horsham | 410m | 10 | 5 | - | 1.25L | $1,950 | 2 | $2.80 | 8 days ago | 1 | 10.697 | Broadside | - | Split Reef |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Konomi
Dam
Call Me Bubbles
Trained at
Campaspe (S)
Owners
BEV AND DANIEL
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DANIEL PELL | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Explodes mid race, danger with a clear run
Age
21/04/2022
Sex
Be - Dog
Breeding
Feral Franky - All Inn Ava
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
6-1-3-0
Career
31-9-5-3
Prize Money
$33,676
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
2242564142
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
29%
Place S/Rate
55%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 31-9-5-3 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 6-1-3-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 29% | 0% | 0% | 17% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 55% | 0% | 0% | 67% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 3 | - | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/8 | 16 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 11 | 5 | - | 0.5L | $600 | 7 | $2.40 | 7 days ago | 2 | 6.71625 | Blue Blood | Hartney 33.5kgs 0.5L | - |
| 4/6 | 9 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 9 | 4 | - | 3.5L | $75 | 4 | $2.40 | 4 days ago | 4 | 6.6945 | Gas Lantern | - | - |
| 1/7 | 5 Aug 2024 | Shepparton | 450m | 5 | 5 | - | 2.25L | $1,950 | 6 | $2.90 | 7 days ago | 1 | 6.61, 11.33 | Hartney | - | Don't Tell Shell |
| 4/7 | 29 Jul 2024 | Shepparton | 450m | 6 | 5 | - | 12.5L | $75 | 7 | $9.40 | 11 days ago | 4 | 6.645 | Aston Fantastic | - | - |
| 6/7 | 18 Jul 2024 | Warrnambool | 450m | 8 | 5 | - | 8.75L | - | 6 | $3.10 | 7 days ago | 6 | 6.9995 | Boracay Storm | - | - |
| 5/8 | 11 Jul 2024 | Warrnambool | 450m | 8 | 5 | - | 4.25L | - | 8 | $8.10 | 6 days ago | 5 | 6.8145 | Packham Prince | - | - |
| 2/8 | 5 Jul 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 9 | 4 | - | 0.5L | $690 | 5 | $7.50 | 5 days ago | 2 | 6.5775 | Mistress Oasis | Hartney 32.2kgs 0.5L | - |
| 4/7 | 30 Jun 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 6 | 4 | - | 2.75L | $75 | 1 | $3.30 | 5 days ago | 4 | 6.50625 | Seagull Rock | - | - |
| 2/7 | 25 Jun 2024 | Horsham | 410m | 5 | 3 | - | 1.5L | $690 | 2 | $4.20 | 4 days ago | 2 | 10.3975 | Mr. Beets | Hartney 31.9kgs 1.5L | - |
| 2/8 | 21 Jun 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 5 | 4 | - | 5.25L | $690 | 8 | $6.50 | 6 days ago | 2 | 6.57 | Lamia Mila | Hartney 32.1kgs 5.25L | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Feral Franky
Dam
All Inn Ava
Trained at
Greater Bendigo (C)
Owners
Michelle Carruthers
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MICHELLE CARRUTHERS | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Racing well but rises in class, prefer to watch
Age
10/07/2022
Sex
Black - Bitch
Breeding
Fernando Bale - Kroes
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
0-0-0-0
Career
15-3-2-1
Prize Money
$23,595
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
6412245631
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
20%
Place S/Rate
40%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 15-3-2-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 20% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 40% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 7 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/7 | 18 Aug 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 10 | 6 | - | 4.5L | $1,000 | 3 | $7.50 | 11 days ago | 1 | 8.4425 | Lochinvar Ruby | - | Notorious Blaze |
| 3/7 | 7 Aug 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 10 | 6 | - | 4.5L | $300 | 3 | $14.00 | 11 days ago | 3 | 8.5935 | Takumi Bale | - | Lochinvar Ruby 26.5kgs 4.5L |
| 6/8 | 27 Jul 2024 | Geelong | 400m | 9 | 6 | - | 7.5L | - | 4 | $7.40 | 10 days ago | 6 | 8.9385 | Follow the Sun | - | - |
| 5/6 | 17 Jul 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 9 | 6 | - | 9.5L | - | 2 | $8.00 | 14 days ago | 5 | 8.65175 | Here Hugo | - | - |
| 4/8 | 3 Jul 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 9 | 6 | - | 10.75L | $75 | 8 | $2.40 | 7 days ago | 4 | 8.715 | Canya Libby | - | - |
| 2/8 | 26 Jun 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 3 | 6 | - | 5.5L | $600 | 7 | $8.30 | 7 days ago | 2 | 8.46 | Eco Bale | Lochinvar Ruby 26.1kgs 5.5L | - |
| 2/7 | 19 Jun 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 9 | 6 | - | 1.75L | $600 | 7 | $6.00 | 7 days ago | 2 | 8.43 | Flying Petal | Lochinvar Ruby 26.3kgs 1.75L | - |
| 1/8 | 12 Jun 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 3 | 7 | - | 0.75L | $1,950 | 6 | $7.70 | 21 days ago | 1 | 8.35 | Lochinvar Ruby | - | Straight Speed |
| 4/6 | 22 May 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 9 | 7 | - | 1.75L | $75 | 7 | $9.20 | 7 days ago | 4 | 8.407 | Ruxton Spice | - | - |
| 6/7 | 15 May 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 9 | 7 | - | 8.75L | - | 6 | $32.00 | 37 days ago | 6 | 8.8045 | No Right Turns | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Kroes
Trained at
Weemelah
Owners
Douglas James
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alexis Kenyon | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Front runner, will get tired, look to others
Age
24/03/2021
Sex
Bk - Dog
Breeding
Hard Style Rico - Ryall
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
5-0-1-1
Career
70-6-15-19
Prize Money
$28,613
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
53F2443382
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
9%
Place S/Rate
57%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 70-6-15-19 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 5-0-1-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 9% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 57% | 0% | 0% | 40% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 8 | - | - | 4 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/8 | 16 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 3 | 5 | - | 1.5L | $600 | 2 | $10.00 | 7 days ago | 2 | 6.61, 11.44 | Chappy's Thief | Post the Zipper 32.3kgs 1.5L | - |
| 8/8 | 9 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 11 | 5 | - | 11.25L | - | 5 | $15.30 | 11 days ago | 8 | 6.7145 | Paw Zelini | - | - |
| 3/8 | 29 Jul 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 10 | 5 | - | 1.75L | $300 | 4 | $7.50 | 7 days ago | 3 | 8.465 | Elli's My Girl | - | Post the Zipper 32.8kgs 1.75L |
| 3/8 | 22 Jul 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 11 | 5 | - | 3.0L | $300 | 8 | $11.60 | 52 days ago | 3 | 8.4225 | Blimey Teddy | - | Post the Zipper 32.8kgs 3.0L |
| 4/8 | 31 May 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 12 | 5 | - | 6.25L | $75 | 1 | $11.80 | 4 days ago | 4 | 6.5825 | Imani | - | - |
| 4/8 | 27 May 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 11 | 5 | - | 5.25L | $75 | 7 | $7.70 | 7 days ago | 4 | 8.7695 | Bern's Ability | - | - |
| 2/8 | 20 May 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 2 | 5 | - | 0.25L | $600 | 4 | $15.00 | 73 days ago | 2 | 8.39 | Imani | Post the Zipper 32.5kgs 0.25L | - |
| F/7 | 8 Mar 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 7 | 5 | - | - | - | 7 | $7.00 | 7 days ago | 0 | 6.6045 | Skye Rocket | - | Post the Zipper 32kgs |
| 3/8 | 1 Mar 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 12 | 5 | - | 1.75L | $300 | 2 | $32.40 | 4 days ago | 3 | 6.63, 11.36 | Lenaghan | - | Post the Zipper 32kgs 1.75L |
| 5/8 | 26 Feb 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 11 | 5 | - | 7.25L | - | 6 | $26.20 | 51 days ago | 5 | 8.5745 | Blame Spencer | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Hard Style Rico
Dam
Ryall
Trained at
Campaspe (S)
Owners
Robert Hayes
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ROBERT HAYES | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Improving all the time, nice muster, keep safe
Age
11/07/2022
Sex
Red Fwn - Dog
Breeding
Dyna Tron - Hadeel Bale
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
0-0-0-0
Career
10-4-2-0
Prize Money
$29,200
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
5142612811
Last Run
4 days ago
Win S/Rate
40%
Place S/Rate
60%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 10-4-2-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 40% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 60% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/8 | 19 Aug 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 2 | 6 | - | 3.75L | $1,000 | 3 | $1.20 | 3 days ago | 1 | 4.06475 | Paw Waldo | - | Little Miss Envy |
| 1/8 | 16 Aug 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 10 | 6 | - | 2.25L | $1,000 | 7 | $2.00 | 11 days ago | 1 | 4.0405 | Paw Waldo | - | Snowfest |
| 8/8 | 5 Aug 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 3 | 6 | - | 7.75L | - | 3 | $6.80 | 11 days ago | 8 | 8.805 | Aussie Zac | - | - |
| 2/6 | 25 Jul 2024 | Warrnambool | 390m | 4 | 6 | - | 0.5L | $600 | 8 | $2.80 | 20 days ago | 2 | 8.81 | Belair Brae | Paw Waldo 34.2kgs 0.5L | - |
| 1/8 | 5 Jul 2024 | Traralgon | 350m | 4 | 7 | - | 1.75L | $1,950 | 3 | $4.60 | 7 days ago | 1 | 6.69, 11.74 | Paw Waldo | - | Legitimate |
| 6/8 | 28 Jun 2024 | Geelong | 400m | 9 | 7 | - | 5.5L | - | 4 | $20.10 | 30 days ago | 6 | 8.537 | Bend Your Ear | - | - |
| 2/6 | 29 May 2024 | Traralgon | 350m | 3 | 7 | - | 5.25L | $600 | 2 | $8.00 | 6 days ago | 2 | 6.675 | Posh Paws | Paw Waldo 34.8kgs 5.25L | - |
| 4/8 | 23 May 2024 | Warrnambool | 390m | 2 | 7 | - | 3.0L | $75 | 6 | $4.70 | 10 days ago | 4 | 8.8725 | Naringal Mate | - | - |
| 1/6 | 13 May 2024 | Warrnambool | 390m | 2 | Maiden | - | 0.25L | $1,000 | 4 | $3.50 | 5 days ago | 1 | 8.77 | Paw Waldo | - | Pineapple Juice |
| 5/8 | 8 May 2024 | Sale | 435m | 2 | Maiden | - | 11.5L | - | 6 | $6.00 | - | 5 | 5.315 | Little Meg | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Dyna Tron
Dam
Hadeel Bale
Trained at
Drouin
Owners
James Hamilton Syndications Paw Waldo - MGR J Hamilton
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ROBERT CAMILLERI | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
In form but may get too far back early, tested
Age
25/02/2022
Sex
Black - Dog
Breeding
Barcia Bale - Iylee Bale
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
0-0-0-0
Career
31-7-3-3
Prize Money
$13,640
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
14 days ago
Win S/Rate
23%
Place S/Rate
42%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 31-7-3-3 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 23% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 42% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/8 | 9 Aug 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 12 | 5 | - | 1.5L | $1,000 | 4 | $6.00 | 4 days ago | 1 | 3.93 | Finley Bale | - | Little Whip |
| 1/8 | 5 Aug 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 10 | 5 | - | 0.5L | $1,000 | 6 | $7.80 | 3 days ago | 1 | 6.72725 | Finley Bale | - | Perfect Revenge |
| 1/8 | 2 Aug 2024 | Healesville | 300m | 4 | 5 | - | 1.25L | $1,000 | 1 | $3.20 | 7 days ago | 1 | 4.01175 | Finley Bale | - | Fire Ant |
| 6/7 | 26 Jul 2024 | Geelong | 400m | 10 | 5 | - | 10.75L | - | 4 | $49.50 | 4 days ago | 6 | 8.7 | Aston Zingara | - | - |
| 2/8 | 22 Jul 2024 | Warrnambool | 390m | 5 | 5 | - | 3.25L | $320 | 3 | $12.00 | 22 days ago | 2 | 8.94 | Call Me Artie | Finley Bale 30.4kgs 3.25L | - |
| 6/8 | 30 Jun 2024 | Ballarat | 390m | 10 | 5 | - | 11.75L | - | 4 | $14.00 | 8 days ago | 6 | 8.68 | Capital Gain | - | - |
| 4/7 | 22 Jun 2024 | Geelong | 400m | 10 | 5 | - | 6.75L | $50 | 7 | $9.30 | 6 days ago | 4 | 8.7575 | Spring Brumby | - | - |
| 4/8 | 16 Jun 2024 | Sale | 435m | 11 | 5 | - | 10.75L | $75 | 6 | $28.30 | 9 days ago | 4 | 5.4625 | Soda Frank | - | - |
| 4/8 | 7 Jun 2024 | Traralgon | 395m | 11 | 5 | - | 7.5L | $75 | 4 | $16.00 | 3 days ago | 4 | 3.9515 | Jebediah | - | - |
| 3/8 | 4 Jun 2024 | Horsham | 410m | 12 | 5 | - | 3.75L | $300 | 3 | $12.20 | 28 days ago | 3 | 10.802 | Press Start | - | Finley Bale 30.8kgs 3.75L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Barcia Bale
Dam
Iylee Bale
Trained at
Regents Park
Owners
Bill Freeman
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ROBERT CAMILLERI | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Shows promise, has the pace to cross, yes
Age
25/04/2022
Sex
Bk - Bitch
Breeding
Tommy Shelby - Frank's Girl
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
0-0-0-0
Career
11-3-2-2
Prize Money
$25,176
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
5121731663
Last Run
27 days ago
Win S/Rate
27%
Place S/Rate
64%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 11-3-2-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 27% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 64% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 2 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/8 | 27 Jul 2024 | Geelong | 460m | 5 | 5 | - | 6.25L | $300 | 3 | $5.90 | 40 days ago | 3 | 6.6, 11.48 | Poholke | - | Super Nugget 25.5kgs 6.25L |
| 6/8 | 17 Jun 2024 | Sandown Park | 515m | 7 | 5 | - | 4.25L | - | 4 | $2.80 | 4 days ago | 6 | 5.365 | Especial Pip | - | - |
| 6/6 | 13 Jun 2024 | Sandown Park | 515m | 11 | 5 | - | 10.25L | - | 7 | $3.30 | 7 days ago | 6 | 5.27 | Departed | - | - |
| 1/7 | 6 Jun 2024 | Sandown Park | 515m | 2 | 6 | - | 3.0L | $5,900 | 4 | $2.10 | 7 days ago | 1 | 5.1375, 19.11 | Super Nugget | - | Miss Mary Jo |
| 3/8 | 30 May 2024 | Sandown Park | 515m | 2 | 6 | - | 4.5L | $915 | 2 | $2.70 | 10 days ago | 3 | 5.16 | Flying Dinar | - | Super Nugget 25.8kgs 4.5L |
| 7/7 | 20 May 2024 | Sandown Park | 515m | 5 | 6 | - | 15.5L | - | 7 | $2.80 | 127 days ago | 7 | 5.165 | Oscar Intention | - | - |
| 1/7 | 14 Jan 2024 | Sandown Park | 515m | 4 | 7 | - | 4.5L | $2,230 | 2 | $1.70 | 5 days ago | 1 | 5.08, 18.79 | Super Nugget | - | Best of Colour |
| 2/8 | 9 Jan 2024 | Geelong | 460m | 5 | 7 | - | 2.0L | $320 | 4 | $1.90 | 7 days ago | 2 | 6.631 | Numerous | Super Nugget 25.1kgs 2.0L | - |
| 1/5 | 2 Jan 2024 | Geelong | 460m | 1 | Maiden | - | 3.25L | $1,000 | 4 | $1.30 | 7 days ago | 1 | 6.65, 11.42 | Super Nugget | - | Assume Floppy |
| 5/7 | 26 Dec 2023 | Horsham | 410m | 2 | Maiden | - | 6.5L | - | 7 | $5.00 | 7 days ago | 5 | 10.73 | Lektra Cher | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Tommy Shelby
Dam
Frank's Girl
Trained at
Moorabool (S)
Owners
Glenn Skene
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MATTHEW LANIGAN | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Rarely runs a bad race here, place claims
Age
16/11/2020
Sex
Bd - Bitch
Breeding
Fernando Bale - Militant Spirit
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
33-7-5-4
Career
73-14-17-6
Prize Money
$63,691
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
6311165835
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
19%
Place S/Rate
51%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 73-14-17-6 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 33-7-5-4 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 19% | 0% | 0% | 21% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 51% | 0% | 0% | 48% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 5 | - | - | 2 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/8 | 16 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 11 | 5 | - | 2.0L | - | 5 | $21.00 | 7 days ago | 5 | 6.7075 | Blue Blood | - | - |
| 3/7 | 9 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 10 | 5 | - | 3.25L | $300 | 8 | $15.30 | 7 days ago | 3 | 6.6 | Grand Tourer | - | Militant Storm 28.1kgs 3.25L |
| 8/8 | 2 Aug 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 6 | 5 | - | 8.25L | - | 2 | $22.60 | 7 days ago | 8 | 6.821 | At My Command | - | - |
| 5/8 | 26 Jul 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 10 | 4 | - | 7.75L | - | 5 | $55.70 | 7 days ago | 5 | 6.6 | Matt Loch | - | - |
| 6/7 | 19 Jul 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 6 | 4 | - | 17.75L | - | 7 | $16.20 | 4 days ago | 6 | 6.63925 | Mock Fish | - | - |
| 1/8 | 15 Jul 2024 | Shepparton | 390m | 2 | 5 | - | 0.5L | $1,950 | 1 | $2.60 | 10 days ago | 1 | 8.4 | Militant Storm | - | Kraken Hook |
| 1/6 | 5 Jul 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 12 | 5 | - | 4.75L | $1,950 | 2 | $3.40 | 9 days ago | 1 | 6.57, 11.42 | Militant Storm | - | Red Shiraz |
| 1/8 | 26 Jun 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 9 | 5 | - | 0.25L | $1,000 | 4 | $3.90 | 5 days ago | 1 | 6.56 | Militant Storm | - | Capala |
| 3/8 | 21 Jun 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 12 | 5 | - | 5.75L | $300 | 1 | $3.40 | 49 days ago | 3 | 6.577 | Buck Shines | - | Militant Storm 27.8kgs 5.75L |
| 6/8 | 3 May 2024 | Bendigo | 425m | 2 | 5 | - | 6.5L | - | 3 | $3.60 | 5 days ago | 6 | 6.6395 | Intex Bale | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Militant Spirit
Trained at
Greater Bendigo (C)
Owners
Ken Hunt
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| KEN HUNT | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Can show good early burn, put in exotics
Age
01/05/2022
Sex
Bkw - Bitch
Breeding
Aston Dee Bee - Aston Gwen
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
0-0-0-0
Career
29-7-3-3
Prize Money
$38,118
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
–
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
24%
Place S/Rate
45%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 29-7-3-3 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 24% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 45% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6/8 | 16 Aug 2024 | Geelong | 460m | 5 | 5 | - | 7.5L | - | 8 | $56.20 | 6 days ago | 6 | 6.83375 | Aston Gozo | - | - |
| 8/8 | 10 Aug 2024 | Meadows | 525m | 12 | 5 | - | 10.25L | - | 3 | $12.70 | 7 days ago | 8 | 5.2185 | Colac Kid | - | - |
| 7/8 | 3 Aug 2024 | Meadows | 525m | 3 | 5 | - | 5.75L | - | 4 | $6.00 | 8 days ago | 7 | 5.25125 | Zadie | - | - |
| 5/6 | 26 Jul 2024 | Geelong | 520m | 7 | 5 | - | 12.5L | - | 1 | $9.70 | 6 days ago | 5 | 5.777 | Reema Bale | - | - |
| 6/8 | 20 Jul 2024 | Meadows | 525m | 12 | 5 | - | 15.25L | - | 2 | $13.20 | 8 days ago | 6 | - | Irish Lucy | - | - |
| 4/6 | 12 Jul 2024 | Geelong | 520m | 9 | 5 | - | 4.5L | $75 | 5 | $28.10 | 6 days ago | 4 | 5.37175 | Magic Muffin | - | - |
| 3/8 | 6 Jul 2024 | Meadows | 525m | 5 | 5 | - | 3.75L | $915 | 4 | $11.60 | 5 days ago | 3 | 5.12 | Barry Bale | - | Aston Allure 25.7kgs 3.75L |
| 1/6 | 1 Jul 2024 | Sandown Park | 515m | 12 | 5 | - | 1.25L | $2,230 | 1 | $3.00 | 12 days ago | 1 | 5.11, 19.35 | Aston Allure | - | Billy Intention |
| 1/7 | 19 Jun 2024 | Meadows | 525m | 5 | 5 | - | 0.5L | $2,230 | 3 | $2.50 | 8 days ago | 1 | 5.1, 18.1 | Aston Allure | - | Weblec Wrangler |
| 5/6 | 11 Jun 2024 | Geelong | 460m | 8 | 5 | - | 10.25L | - | 8 | $2.80 | 6 days ago | 5 | 6.8515 | Thank You Tommy | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Aston Dee Bee
Dam
Aston Gwen
Trained at
Golden Plains (S)
Owners
Raymond Gatt
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RAYMOND GATT | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Showing promise but this is harder, next time