Geelong R4 MILLERS MUZZLES
Millers Muzzles
7:36pm • 400m7:36pm • 400m
Age
02/02/2020
Sex
Be - Bitch
Breeding
Goodesy - Zipping Abby
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
5-2-1-1
Career
40-12-6-8
Prize Money
$56,095
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
3141624553
Last Run
23 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 40-12-6-8 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 5-2-1-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 30% | 0% | 0% | 40% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 65% | 0% | 0% | 80% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 3 | - | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/7 | 6 Oct 2022 | Warrnambool | 450m | 6 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 8.0L | $475 | 7 | $12.30 | 6 days ago | 3-5-5-3 | 6.765 | Blazing Times | - | Zipping Bronte 26.2kgs 8.0L |
| 5/10 | 30 Sep 2022 | Traralgon | 450m | 8 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 1.5L | - | 6 | $19.20 | 4 days ago | 8-7-7-5 | 6.9235 | Kepler Bale | - | - |
| 5/8 | 26 Sep 2022 | Shepparton | 450m | 6 | Special Event | - | 3.0L | - | 5 | $5.40 | 20 days ago | 5 | - | Crabby Yabby | - | - |
| 4/8 | 6 Sep 2022 | Horsham | 485m | 6 | Grade 5 | - | 5.25L | - | 6 | $3.10 | 4 days ago | 4 | - | Flash Banner | - | - |
| 2/6 | 2 Sep 2022 | Traralgon | 500m | 9 | Grade 5 Heat | - | 0.25L | $690 | 8 | - | 5 days ago | 1-2-2-2 | 9.17 | Whispers Blare | Zipping Bronte 26.3kgs 0.25L | - |
| 6/10 | 28 Aug 2022 | Sandown Park | 515m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 11.0L | - | 1 | $3.30 | 4 days ago | 1-2-6-6-6 | 5.11 | Limit Switch | - | - |
| 1/6 | 24 Aug 2022 | Meadows | 525m | 12 | Special Event | - | 1.5L | $2,500 | 1 | $2.90 | 7 days ago | 2-1-1-1-1 | 5.1575 | Zipping Bronte | - | Cryptic Vixen |
| 4/8 | 17 Aug 2022 | Traralgon | 500m | 8 | Grade 5 | - | 2.0L | - | 6 | $6.70 | 5 days ago | 1-2-2-4 | 9.21 | Indiana Phones | - | - |
| 1/6 | 12 Aug 2022 | Sale | 520m | 9 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 1.5L | $2,250 | 5 | $3.50 | 6 days ago | 2-1-1-1 | 9.4125 | Zipping Bronte | - | Zipping Thor |
| 3/9 | 6 Aug 2022 | Bendigo | 500m | 8 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 1.25L | $325 | 3 | $5.20 | 9 days ago | 4-4-4-3 | 6.7 | Brothers In Arms | - | Zipping Bronte 25.6kgs 1.25L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Goodesy
Dam
Zipping Abby
Owners
Cameron Hallinan
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Robert Camilleri | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Comes out running, in rare form, go close
Age
23/10/2020
Sex
Be - Bitch
Breeding
Bernardo - Lochinvar Adore
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
4-1-2-0
Career
20-7-7-4
Prize Money
$50,080
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
3221322111
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 20-7-7-4 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 4-1-2-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 35% | 0% | 0% | 25% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 90% | 0% | 0% | 75% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 2 | - | - | 2 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/10 | 22 Oct 2022 | Traralgon | 395m | 6 | Special Event | - | 3.0L | $3,540 | 8 | $3.80 | 3 days ago | 1 | - | Blackpool Dill | - | Self Control |
| 1/10 | 19 Oct 2022 | Traralgon | 395m | 9 | Restricted Win Final | - | 1.0L | $3,540 | 2 | $1.90 | 7 days ago | 1 | - | Blackpool Dill | - | Dr. Ricardo |
| 1/10 | 12 Oct 2022 | Traralgon | 395m | 2 | Restricted Win Heat | - | 1.25L | $1,950 | 8 | $2.40 | 6 days ago | 1 | - | Blackpool Dill | - | Hoppy Bob |
| 2/7 | 6 Oct 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 10 | Grade 5 | - | 0.25L | $600 | 2 | $2.40 | 8 days ago | 1-1-2 | 8.24 | Hadouken | Blackpool Dill 29kgs 0.25L | - |
| 2/10 | 28 Sep 2022 | Traralgon | 350m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 1.75L | $600 | 3 | $2.30 | 13 days ago | 3-3-2 | 6.62 | Django Maskiell | Blackpool Dill 29kgs 1.75L | - |
| 3/10 | 15 Sep 2022 | Warrnambool | 390m | 9 | Restricted Win Final | - | 5.5L | $545 | 5 | $4.80 | 7 days ago | 1-3-3 | 8.5 | Orbital Bale | - | Blackpool Dill 28.9kgs 5.5L |
| 1/7 | 8 Sep 2022 | Warrnambool | 390m | 10 | Restricted Win Heat | - | 1.0L | $1,950 | 2 | $1.70 | 4 days ago | 1-1-1 | 8.59 | Blackpool Dill | - | Oboya Bale |
| 2/10 | 4 Sep 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 11 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 4.0L | $950 | 1 | $3.90 | 6 days ago | 2-2-2 | 8.44 | Without Reason | Blackpool Dill 28.7kgs 4.0L | - |
| 2/10 | 29 Aug 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 7 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 0.5L | $550 | 7 | $12.10 | 59 days ago | 1-1-2 | 8.28 | Unathi Bale | Blackpool Dill 28.3kgs 0.5L | - |
| 3/10 | 1 Jul 2022 | Bendigo | 425m | 7 | S/E Final | - | 3.0L | $2,085 | 3 | $4.70 | 5 days ago | 3-2-2-3 | 6.546 | Aston Reina | - | Blackpool Dill 28.8kgs 3.0L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Bernardo
Dam
Lochinvar Adore
Owners
Renee Kenyon
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Renee Kenyon | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Showing promise, good early burn, threat
Age
29/12/2020
Sex
Bk - Bitch
Breeding
Barcia Bale - Helga Bale
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-0-1
Career
6-3-1-2
Prize Money
$39,275
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
31121
Last Run
10 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 6-3-1-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-0-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 50% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 100% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 1 | - | - | 3 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/10 | 19 Oct 2022 | Traralgon | 395m | 3 | Mixed 6/7 | - | 1.75L | $1,950 | 1 | $2.30 | 8 days ago | 1 | - | Willful Bale | - | Pontiac Shadow |
| 2/6 | 11 Oct 2022 | Warragul | 400m | 4 | Restricted Win | - | 4.0L | $600 | 2 | $1.60 | 5 days ago | 2-2-2 | 8.495 | War Knee | Willful Bale 27kgs 4.0L | - |
| 1/7 | 6 Oct 2022 | Warrnambool | 390m | 9 | Restricted Win | - | 5.5L | $1,950 | 7 | $7.60 | 10 days ago | 1-1-1 | 8.61 | Willful Bale | - | Settlement Day |
| 1/10 | 26 Sep 2022 | Shepparton | 385m | 1 | Maiden | - | 0.5L | $1,680 | 8 | $3.10 | 10 days ago | 1 | - | Willful Bale | - | Son of Brock |
| 3/10 | 16 Sep 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 9 | Maiden | - | 7.75L | $260 | 6 | $20.60 | - | 3-3-3 | 8.7625 | Xoie Bale | - | Willful Bale 26.7kgs 7.75L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Barcia Bale
Dam
Helga Bale
Owners
Andrea Gurry
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Deborah Coleman | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Just not racing well enough, prefer to watch
Age
13/11/2019
Sex
Wbk - Bitch
Breeding
Fernando Bale - Pandaken
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
13-2-4-1
Career
38-5-5-7
Prize Money
$24,057
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
1155636366
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 38-5-5-7 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 13-2-4-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 13% | 0% | 0% | 15% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 45% | 0% | 0% | 54% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 7 | - | - | 5 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6/10 | 22 Oct 2022 | Traralgon | 395m | 6 | Special Event | - | 5.5L | - | 4 | $74.90 | 35 days ago | 6 | - | Blackpool Dill | - | - |
| 6/10 | 17 Sep 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 11 | Grade 5 | - | 8.75L | - | 3 | $152.60 | 28 days ago | 6-6-6 | 8.7925 | Boston Garden | - | - |
| 3/9 | 20 Aug 2022 | Warragul | 460m | 6 | Grade 5 | - | 4.75L | $265 | 5 | $41.00 | 9 days ago | 3-3-3-3 | 6.685 | Triumph | - | Yaala Express 26.6kgs 4.75L |
| 6/7 | 11 Aug 2022 | Warrnambool | 450m | 5 | Restricted Win Heat | - | 9.75L | - | 6 | $43.70 | 5 days ago | 6 | - | Vermont Bale | - | - |
| 3/8 | 6 Aug 2022 | Bendigo | 425m | 11 | Grade 5 | - | 2.5L | $265 | 7 | $27.30 | 4 days ago | 5-4-3-3 | 6.7675 | Spearhead Joe | - | Yaala Express 26.1kgs 2.5L |
| 6/6 | 2 Aug 2022 | Geelong | 460m | 12 | Mixed 3/4 | - | 10.25L | - | 5 | $62.00 | 32 days ago | 4-5-5-6 | 6.7825 | Mepunga Mustang | - | - |
| 5/8 | 1 Jul 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 5.25L | - | 7 | $4.30 | 14 days ago | 5 | - | Romeo Bale | - | - |
| 5/10 | 17 Jun 2022 | Ballarat | 450m | 11 | Group Listed | - | 4.25L | - | 8 | $16.50 | 7 days ago | 6-3-5-5 | 6.75075 | Loneliness | - | - |
| 1/10 | 10 Jun 2022 | Geelong | 460m | 11 | S/E Final | - | 1.5L | $2,500 | 1 | $7.20 | 7 days ago | 3-2-2-1 | 6.74925 | Yaala Express | - | Joffa's Tiara |
| 1/6 | 3 Jun 2022 | Geelong | 460m | 12 | S/E Heat | - | 1.25L | $2,500 | 4 | $7.00 | 7 days ago | 2-1-1-1 | 6.89 | Yaala Express | - | Rainbow City |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Pandaken
Trained at
Geelong
Owners
Ashley Welsh
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jason Wickham | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Should get a nice cart across early, keep safe
Age
15/12/2018
Sex
Bk - Dog
Breeding
Fabregas - Sheeza Nitro
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-0-0
Career
58-16-9-9
Prize Money
$28,023
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
5712524585
Last Run
9 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 58-16-9-9 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 28% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 59% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 4 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/9 | 20 Oct 2022 | Warrnambool | 390m | 10 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 6.25L | - | 6 | $39.60 | 19 days ago | 5-5-5 | 9.155 | Wedding or Baby | - | - |
| 8/8 | 1 Oct 2022 | Horsham | 410m | 7 | Grade 5 | - | 13.5L | - | 7 | $19.30 | 176 days ago | 5-5-8 | 10.6125 | Aston Marvel | - | - |
| 5/6 | 8 Apr 2022 | Bendigo | 500m | 10 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 43.5L | - | 7 | $22.40 | 4 days ago | 4-5-5-5 | 7.755 | Spring Crossing | - | - |
| 4/10 | 4 Apr 2022 | Shepparton | 450m | 8 | Grade 5 Final | - | 4.75L | - | 2 | $23.20 | 7 days ago | 6-6-4-4 | 6.75 | Distinguish | - | - |
| 2/10 | 28 Mar 2022 | Shepparton | 450m | 8 | Grade 5 Heat | - | 6.5L | $530 | 5 | $13.30 | 6 days ago | 2-2-2-2 | 6.72 | Zipping Scorcher | Spring Scout 33.4kgs 6.5L | - |
| 5/6 | 22 Mar 2022 | Warragul | 460m | 9 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 6.5L | - | 7 | $6.60 | 8 days ago | 6-6-5-5 | 6.6915 | Decimate | - | - |
| 2/10 | 14 Mar 2022 | Shepparton | 450m | 10 | Grade 5 | - | 2.0L | $530 | 7 | $5.10 | 3 days ago | 6-5-2-2 | 6.9095 | Diesel Runner | Spring Scout 33.1kgs 2.0L | - |
| 1/7 | 11 Mar 2022 | Geelong | 460m | 6 | Grade 5 | - | 3.5L | $1,850 | 6 | $4.00 | 10 days ago | 1-1-1-1 | 6.57 | Spring Scout | - | Quarter Bale |
| 7/7 | 1 Mar 2022 | Horsham | 410m | 4 | Grade 5 Heat | - | 9.0L | - | 8 | $11.20 | 6 days ago | 6-6-7 | 10.5595 | Zipping Scorcher | - | - |
| 5/7 | 23 Feb 2022 | Ballarat | 450m | 7 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 7.25L | - | 6 | $12.10 | 5 days ago | 5-4-4-5 | 6.664 | Zipping Scorcher | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fabregas
Dam
Sheeza Nitro
Trained at
Balliang
Owners
Lisa Delbridge
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mark Delbridge | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Goes well here but drawn to find bother, next time
Age
29/10/2018
Sex
Wbd - Dog
Breeding
Fernando Bale - Live Wire
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
35-3-5-7
Career
57-7-5-11
Prize Money
$18,613
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
1523187717
Last Run
10 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 57-7-5-11 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 35-3-5-7 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 12% | 0% | 0% | 9% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 40% | 0% | 0% | 43% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 8 | - | - | 6 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7/10 | 19 Oct 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 4 | Grade 5 | - | 5.5L | - | 7 | $28.70 | 9 days ago | 7 | - | Zambora Topaz | - | - |
| 1/10 | 10 Oct 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 12 | Grade 5 T3 | - | 2.75L | $1,000 | 1 | $3.20 | 7 days ago | 1-1-1 | 8.49 | Defiance | - | Earn the Fizz |
| 7/10 | 3 Oct 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 5 | Grade 5 T3 | - | 9.5L | - | 1 | $19.20 | 14 days ago | 8-7-7 | 8.897 | Slingshot Sudoku | - | - |
| 7/8 | 19 Sep 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 10 | Grade 5 T3 | - | 10.0L | - | 4 | $12.20 | 5 days ago | 7-8-7 | 8.77875 | Rev Up Freddy | - | - |
| 8/8 | 14 Sep 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 3 | Grade 5 | - | 4.25L | - | 4 | $38.80 | 7 days ago | 7-8-8 | 8.875 | Nitro Antwon | - | - |
| 1/8 | 7 Sep 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 4 | Grade 5 | - | - | - | 5 | - | 8 days ago | 1 | - | Defiance | - | Lala Grapefruit |
| 3/10 | 30 Aug 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 7 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 7.75L | $145 | 4 | $5.60 | 7 days ago | 3 | - | Dr. Carlson | - | Defiance 31.1kgs 7.75L |
| 2/9 | 23 Aug 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 6 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 1.75L | $290 | 6 | $17.70 | 8 days ago | 3-3-2 | 8.5275 | My Boy Charlott | Defiance 31.3kgs 1.75L | - |
| 5/10 | 15 Aug 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 11 | Grade 5 T3 | - | 4.5L | - | 1 | $4.50 | 10 days ago | 4-5-5 | 8.705 | Soda Ruby | - | - |
| 1/9 | 5 Aug 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 0.5L | $1,850 | 5 | $15.20 | 11 days ago | 1-1-1 | 8.44 | Defiance | - | My Boy Charlott |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Live Wire
Trained at
Greater Geelong (C)
Owners
MILLIONAIRES
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Elizabeth Lloyd | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Good muster, has the pace to cross, danger
Age
29/12/2020
Sex
Wbk - Bitch
Breeding
Fully Loaded - Express Angel
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-0-1
Career
16-3-3-2
Prize Money
$34,694
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
4841612635
Last Run
6 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 16-3-3-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-0-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 19% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 50% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 5 | - | - | 4 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/10 | 23 Oct 2022 | Healesville | 300m | 11 | Grade 5 | - | 4.0L | - | 2 | $3.70 | 4 days ago | 4-5 | 3.906 | Chappy's Girl | - | - |
| 3/10 | 19 Oct 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 2.0L | $300 | 8 | $2.10 | 14 days ago | 4-2-3 | 8.57425 | Pride Into Power | - | Chappy's Thief 26.3kgs 2.0L |
| 6/8 | 5 Oct 2022 | Ballarat | 450m | 7 | Special Event | - | 9.75L | - | 7 | $18.30 | 3 days ago | 8-6-6-6 | 6.966 | Blue Tungsten | - | - |
| 2/8 | 2 Oct 2022 | Healesville | 300m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 0.75L | $600 | 2 | $2.20 | 4 days ago | 1-2 | 3.88 | Master Zorro | Chappy's Thief 25.7kgs 0.75L | - |
| 1/6 | 28 Sep 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 2 | Restricted Win | - | 4.0L | $1,950 | 2 | $2.00 | 3 days ago | 1-1-1 | 8.31 | Chappy's Thief | - | Zip Up Andy |
| 6/9 | 25 Sep 2022 | Healesville | 300m | 10 | Mixed 6/7 | - | 3.5L | - | 6 | $11.90 | 16 days ago | 4-6 | 3.886 | Aston Aitana | - | - |
| 1/8 | 9 Sep 2022 | Healesville | 300m | 9 | Tier 3 - Grade 7 | - | 4.0L | $1,000 | 5 | $2.10 | 5 days ago | 1-1 | 3.89 | Chappy's Thief | - | Dewana Speed |
| 4/8 | 4 Sep 2022 | Healesville | 300m | 3 | Mixed 6/7 | - | 9.0L | - | 4 | $18.20 | 4 days ago | 7-4 | 4.02 | Royal Mint | - | - |
| 8/10 | 31 Aug 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 2 | Mixed 6/7 Final | - | 11.0L | - | 4 | $42.90 | 7 days ago | 5-8-8 | 8.70425 | Red's Shout | - | - |
| 4/10 | 24 Aug 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 2 | Mixed 6/7 Heat | - | 10.25L | - | 6 | $13.20 | 5 days ago | 5-7-4 | 8.6725 | Ox the Man | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fully Loaded
Dam
Express Angel
Trained at
Brimbank (C)
Owners
Loren Dickinson
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Loren Dickinson | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Resuming, likely to need the run, place best
Age
11/12/2018
Sex
Dkbd - Dog
Breeding
Turanza Bale - Helga Bale
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
17-1-1-4
Career
64-11-9-9
Prize Money
$28,145
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
7843181617
Last Run
44 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 64-11-9-9 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 17-1-1-4 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 17% | 0% | 0% | 6% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 45% | 0% | 0% | 35% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 6 | - | - | 7 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7/10 | 15 Sep 2022 | Warrnambool | 450m | 6 | S/E Final | - | 9.25L | - | 8 | $13.80 | 10 days ago | 7 | - | Parlo Bale | - | - |
| 1/10 | 5 Sep 2022 | Warrnambool | 450m | 5 | S/E Heat | - | 2.0L | $3,540 | 1 | $2.20 | 6 days ago | 2-1-1-1 | 6.677 | Jagger Bale | - | Big Alfie |
| 6/10 | 30 Aug 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 5 | Grade 5 | - | 6.5L | - | 8 | $3.10 | 8 days ago | 5-5-6 | 8.8295 | Chase the Magic | - | - |
| 1/8 | 22 Aug 2022 | Warrnambool | 450m | 6 | Grade 5 | - | 4.0L | $1,000 | 1 | $1.80 | 8 days ago | 1-1-1-1 | 6.72 | Jagger Bale | - | Rough In Vegas |
| 8/8 | 14 Aug 2022 | Sandown Park | 515m | 6 | Grade 5 | - | 8.0L | - | 4 | $35.40 | 5 days ago | 6-7-7-7-8 | 5.18 | Sheriff Demon | - | - |
| 1/8 | 9 Aug 2022 | Horsham | 410m | 5 | Grade 5 | - | 4.75L | $1,850 | 6 | $12.10 | 5 days ago | 1-1-1 | 10.56 | Jagger Bale | - | Magnis Bale |
| 3/10 | 4 Aug 2022 | Shepparton | 385m | 3 | Grade 5 T3 | - | 1.75L | $265 | 5 | $15.40 | 6 days ago | 3 | - | Huntly Flyer | - | Jagger Bale 33.8kgs 1.75L |
| 4/8 | 29 Jul 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 5 | Grade 5 | - | 10.25L | - | 4 | $28.60 | 10 days ago | 5-4-4 | 8.81 | Aston Galaxy | - | - |
| 8/8 | 19 Jul 2022 | Horsham | 410m | 5 | Grade 5 Heat | - | 10.75L | - | 8 | $82.70 | 4 days ago | 7-8-8 | 10.9225 | Max Rogue | - | - |
| 7/7 | 15 Jul 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 4 | Grade 5 | - | 6.75L | - | 6 | $35.40 | 7 days ago | 7-7-7 | 8.7275 | Shanlyn Cripps | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Turanza Bale
Dam
Helga Bale
Trained at
Anakie
Owners
Clint Capuano
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chloe Dew | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Needs room early, may not get it, place
Age
17/11/2019
Sex
F - Dog
Breeding
Orson Allen - Houso Delight
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
6-1-3-0
Career
54-12-9-7
Prize Money
$22,970
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
1143876344
Last Run
2 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 54-12-9-7 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 6-1-3-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 22% | 0% | 0% | 17% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 52% | 0% | 0% | 67% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4/10 | 27 Oct 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 11 | Grade 5 | - | 3.25L | - | 4 | $14.50 | 7 days ago | 4-4-4 | 8.5525 | Ruby's Desire | - | - |
| 4/9 | 20 Oct 2022 | Warrnambool | 390m | 10 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 4.25L | - | 2 | $28.90 | 7 days ago | 4-4-4 | 9.0325 | Wedding or Baby | - | - |
| 3/6 | 13 Oct 2022 | Warrnambool | 390m | 12 | Mixed 3/4 | - | 4.25L | $545 | 8 | $10.20 | 21 days ago | 5-5-3 | 8.7865 | Impingement | - | Vinny Can Gogh 33.2kgs 4.25L |
| 6/7 | 22 Sep 2022 | Warrnambool | 390m | 9 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 8.0L | - | 2 | $33.50 | 8 days ago | 6-6-6 | 9.0045 | Destini Saxon | - | - |
| 7/7 | 14 Sep 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 11 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 7.75L | - | 3 | $44.80 | 5 days ago | 1-7-7 | 8.55 | Deadly Express | - | - |
| 8/10 | 9 Sep 2022 | Traralgon | 395m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 7.0L | - | 2 | $28.00 | 9 days ago | 8 | - | Aston Profit | - | - |
| 3/7 | 31 Aug 2022 | Traralgon | 395m | 6 | Mixed 4/5 | - | 12.5L | $275 | 4 | $40.30 | 8 days ago | 5-5-3-3 | 3.852 | Deadly Express | - | Vinny Can Gogh 33.3kgs 12.5L |
| 4/7 | 23 Aug 2022 | Warragul | 400m | 7 | Grade 5 | - | 11.5L | - | 4 | $17.40 | 12 days ago | 7-7-4 | 8.725 | Shima Sheen | - | - |
| 1/10 | 11 Aug 2022 | Warrnambool | 390m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 0.75L | $1,850 | 4 | $6.40 | 7 days ago | 1 | - | Vinny Can Gogh | - | Spring Casper |
| 1/9 | 4 Aug 2022 | Warragul | 400m | 7 | Grade 5 T3 | - | 1.75L | $1,000 | 8 | $2.60 | 3 days ago | 1 | - | Vinny Can Gogh | - | Aston Rosa |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Orson Allen
Dam
Houso Delight
Trained at
Toolleen
Owners
Pup To Track Nineteen (Syn)
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mark Giddings | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Not the worst, can sneak into a place if runs
Age
11/01/2019
Sex
Bd - Bitch
Breeding
Bernardo - Destini Gold
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
30-2-4-5
Career
76-11-12-11
Prize Money
$28,525
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
4276523535
Last Run
10 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 76-11-12-11 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 30-2-4-5 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 14% | 0% | 0% | 7% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 45% | 0% | 0% | 37% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/10 | 19 Oct 2022 | Ballarat | 390m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 3.0L | - | 3 | $13.80 | 8 days ago | 3-5-5 | 8.5725 | Pride Into Power | - | - |
| 3/8 | 11 Oct 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 11 | Grade 5 | - | 3.75L | $160 | 4 | $9.60 | 5 days ago | 3 | - | Lala Grapefruit | - | Riverdale Goldie 31.7kgs 3.75L |
| 5/7 | 6 Oct 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 7.0L | - | 1 | $4.30 | 6 days ago | 7-6-5 | 9.19175 | Dr. Matrix | - | - |
| 3/9 | 30 Sep 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 3.75L | $300 | 8 | $3.60 | 6 days ago | 5-6-3 | 8.567 | Blackpool May | - | Riverdale Goldie 31.4kgs 3.75L |
| 2/9 | 24 Sep 2022 | Ballarat | 450m | 8 | Grade 5 | - | 0.25L | $320 | 5 | $13.90 | 7 days ago | 1-1-1-2 | 6.65 | Change of Habit | Riverdale Goldie 31.8kgs 0.25L | - |
| 5/10 | 17 Sep 2022 | Geelong | 460m | 5 | Special Event | - | 5.0L | - | 2 | $9.90 | 15 days ago | 4-4-6-5 | 6.865 | Ari Dumbledore | - | - |
| 6/8 | 2 Sep 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 4 | Grade 5 | - | 4.75L | - | 4 | $14.30 | 21 days ago | 7-6-6 | 8.8415 | Daph's Yak | - | - |
| 7/10 | 12 Aug 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 12 | Grade 5 | - | 9.75L | - | 1 | $17.50 | 7 days ago | 6-6-7 | 8.6125 | Mojo Herrera | - | - |
| 2/9 | 5 Aug 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 11 | Grade 5 | - | 0.25L | $530 | 2 | $13.90 | 13 days ago | 2 | - | Sailor's Girl | Riverdale Goldie 0.25L | - |
| 4/10 | 23 Jul 2022 | Geelong | 400m | 11 | Grade 5 | - | 5.75L | - | 6 | $12.70 | 11 days ago | 6-5-4 | 8.702 | Super Marli | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Bernardo
Dam
Destini Gold
Trained at
Wyndham (C)
Owners
RIVERDALE
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ian Green | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |










Race comment
Can miss the kick, posted wide, too risky