Meadows R7 themeadows.org.au
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Themeadows.org.au
2:15pm • 525m2:15pm • 525m
PLWeightTrainerFlucs
SPOpenBestMarginBox
Age
16/04/2018
Sex
Bk - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
53-13-5-7
Career
78-16-10-12
Prize Money
$105,880
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
6F76484353
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
21%
Place S/Rate
49%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 78-16-10-12 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 53-13-5-7 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 21% | 0% | 0% | 25% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 49% | 0% | 0% | 47% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/10 | 15 Apr 2022 | Healesville | 350m | 5 | - | - | 0.5L | $265 | 7 | $19.50 | 12 days ago | 3 | - | Why Not Opal | - | Javi 30.6kgs 0.5L |
| 5/6 | 3 Apr 2022 | Healesville | 350m | 4 | - | - | 4.0L | - | 2 | $41.50 | 12 days ago | 5-5 | 6.66575 | Major Cyclone | - | - |
| 3/5 | 22 Mar 2022 | Healesville | 350m | 4 | - | - | 4.25L | $145 | 8 | $6.00 | 13 days ago | 4-3 | 6.73 | Rear View Mirror | - | Javi 30.3kgs 4.25L |
| 4/6 | 9 Mar 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 6 | - | - | 7.25L | - | 7 | $48.50 | 32 days ago | 1-1-2-2-4 | 5.1 | Mepunga Mustang | - | - |
| 8/8 | 5 Feb 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 7 | - | - | 13.0L | - | 1 | $23.60 | 10 days ago | 5-5-8-8-8 | 5.17425 | Quintessa Bale | - | - |
| 4/7 | 26 Jan 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 6 | - | - | 7.25L | - | 1 | $4.80 | 14 days ago | 3-1-1-2-4 | 5.1645 | Zipping James | - | - |
| 6/7 | 12 Jan 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 8 | - | - | 14.75L | - | 8 | $4.90 | 4 days ago | 2-4-5-6-6 | 5.175 | Vayda Bale | - | - |
| 7/8 | 8 Jan 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 8 | - | - | 5.75L | - | 2 | $17.80 | 10 days ago | 6-3-2-4-7 | 5.182 | Fabriola Duran | - | - |
| F/6 | 29 Dec 2021 | The Meadows | 525m | 5 | - | - | - | - | 4 | - | 7 days ago | 0 | - | Kinson Bale | - | Javi |
| 6/8 | 22 Dec 2021 | The Meadows | 525m | 4 | - | - | 12.75L | - | 8 | $22.40 | 25 days ago | 6 | - | Indy Matilda | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Kinloch Brae
Dam
Amelia Christa
Trained at
Devon Meadows
Owners
Marlene Schmidt
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Marlene Schmidt | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Well graded, can take over at the bend, yes
Age
28/12/2019
Sex
Bk - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
2-0-0-0
Career
16-4-4-1
Prize Money
$29,820
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
1142516736
Last Run
18 days ago
Win S/Rate
25%
Place S/Rate
56%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 16-4-4-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 2-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 25% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 56% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6/10 | 2 Apr 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 11 | - | - | 10.0L | - | 7 | $6.70 | 8 days ago | 2-4-4-5-6 | 5.155 | Kiss Your Lips | - | - |
| 3/8 | 25 Mar 2022 | Geelong | 460m | 7 | - | - | 2.75L | $265 | 6 | $7.30 | 5 days ago | 3-3-3-3 | 6.6085 | Arran Victory | - | Alcindor 29.6kgs 2.75L |
| 7/8 | 20 Mar 2022 | Sandown Park | 515m | 10 | - | - | 21.25L | - | 7 | $17.60 | 15 days ago | 2-7-7-7-7 | 5.1975 | Dunwerkin | - | - |
| 6/10 | 5 Mar 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 3 | - | - | 15.75L | - | 8 | $5.00 | 16 days ago | 5-6-6-6-6 | 5.2075 | Fabriola Zero | - | - |
| 1/8 | 17 Feb 2022 | Sandown Park | 515m | 7 | - | - | 1.25L | $5,900 | 5 | $3.80 | 7 days ago | 1 | - | Alcindor | - | Affair Bit |
| 5/10 | 10 Feb 2022 | Sandown Park | 515m | 1 | - | - | 17.0L | - | 6 | $22.90 | 4 days ago | 6-6-6-6-5 | 5.5075 | Mobile Legend | - | - |
| 2/8 | 6 Feb 2022 | Geelong | 460m | 9 | - | - | 3.5L | $530 | 5 | $37.70 | 14 days ago | 1-1-2-2 | 6.49 | Mobile Legend | Alcindor 28.9kgs 3.5L | - |
| 4/8 | 23 Jan 2022 | Sandown Park | 515m | 6 | - | - | 6.25L | - | 4 | $7.60 | 21 days ago | 2-3-3-3-4 | 5.1575 | Mow a Meadow | - | - |
| 1/8 | 2 Jan 2022 | Healesville | 350m | 10 | - | - | 0.75L | $1,850 | 1 | $1.60 | 7 days ago | 1-1 | 6.59 | Alcindor | - | Donny Rocks |
| 1/8 | 26 Dec 2021 | Healesville | 350m | 3 | - | - | 1.75L | $1,850 | 1 | $2.80 | 10 days ago | 1-1 | 6.61 | Alcindor | - | Jimmy |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Elcee Jay
Trained at
Devon Meadows
Owners
Melinda Tharle
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Condon | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Every chance at Bendigo, needs it easier
Age
23/08/2019
Sex
Bk - Bitch
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
2-0-0-1
Career
40-6-10-6
Prize Money
$16,870
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
5421434152
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
15%
Place S/Rate
55%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 40-6-10-6 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 2-0-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 15% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 55% | 0% | 0% | 50% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/8 | 13 Apr 2022 | Bendigo | 500m | 8 | - | - | 0.5L | $620 | 1 | $7.00 | 5 days ago | 1-2-2-2 | 6.51 | Holly Fever | She Has Zip 28.4kgs 0.5L | - |
| 5/6 | 8 Apr 2022 | Bendigo | 500m | 11 | - | - | 5.75L | - | 4 | $44.50 | 6 days ago | 5-5-5-5 | 6.815 | Dutch Impact | - | - |
| 1/7 | 2 Apr 2022 | Shepparton | 385m | 5 | - | - | 1.75L | $1,000 | 8 | $3.80 | 3 days ago | 3-2-1 | 8.2995 | She Has Zip | - | Dark Krystal |
| 4/5 | 30 Mar 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 4 | - | - | 7.0L | - | 2 | $32.10 | 7 days ago | 2-2-2-4-4 | 5.2525 | Spring Crossing | - | - |
| 3/7 | 23 Mar 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 5 | - | - | 4.25L | $310 | 6 | $19.40 | 5 days ago | 1-1-1-2-3 | 5.12 | Barbara Ann | - | She Has Zip 28.9kgs 4.25L |
| 4/7 | 18 Mar 2022 | Bendigo | 500m | 5 | - | - | 4.5L | - | 7 | $8.40 | 6 days ago | 4 | - | Flying Jelly | - | - |
| 1/9 | 12 Mar 2022 | Bendigo | 425m | 7 | - | - | 0.25L | $1,000 | 6 | $31.60 | 4 days ago | 3-3-3-1 | 6.675 | She Has Zip | - | Plumb |
| 2/8 | 8 Mar 2022 | Healesville | 350m | 6 | - | - | 3.25L | $290 | 2 | $19.70 | 6 days ago | 2 | - | Rag Time Rove | She Has Zip 27.3kgs 3.25L | - |
| 4/8 | 2 Mar 2022 | Bendigo | 425m | 11 | - | - | 7.5L | - | 6 | $7.20 | 11 days ago | 7-5-4-4 | 6.7655 | Udeyan Bale | - | - |
| 5/7 | 19 Feb 2022 | Shepparton | 385m | 10 | - | - | 5.25L | - | 7 | $24.60 | 17 days ago | 3-4-5 | 8.3895 | Jayville Menace | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Zambora Brockie
Dam
She's All Class
Trained at
Kyneton
Owners
Beverly Evans
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Abraham Formosa | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Placed in his only try here, must keep safe
Age
26/02/2020
Sex
Bd - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-0-1
Career
20-4-2-2
Prize Money
$42,150
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
6115632645
Last Run
6 days ago
Win S/Rate
20%
Place S/Rate
40%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 20-4-2-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-0-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 20% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 40% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/10 | 14 Apr 2022 | Sandown Park | 515m | 9 | - | - | 7.0L | - | 2 | $35.60 | 6 days ago | 7-6-6-6-5 | 5.23925 | Wigram Road | - | - |
| 4/5 | 8 Apr 2022 | Warragul | 460m | 4 | - | - | 4.5L | - | 6 | $8.40 | 5 days ago | 4 | - | Flying Surprise | - | - |
| 6/10 | 3 Apr 2022 | Sandown Park | 515m | 6 | - | - | 3.5L | - | 7 | $17.50 | 7 days ago | 4-5-4-5-6 | 5.25 | Audenzia | - | - |
| 2/8 | 27 Mar 2022 | Sandown Park | 515m | 10 | - | - | 1.25L | $700 | 3 | $3.50 | 11 days ago | 2-1-1-1-2 | 5.3475 | Mr. Deeds | Daintree Lad 32.3kgs 1.25L | - |
| 3/7 | 16 Mar 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 10 | - | - | 4.5L | $310 | 7 | $25.10 | 6 days ago | 6-3-3-3-3 | 5.28375 | Tiggerlong Flyer | - | Daintree Lad 32.5kgs 4.5L |
| 6/8 | 10 Mar 2022 | Sandown Park | 515m | 12 | - | - | 7.5L | - | 1 | $6.30 | 4 days ago | 6 | - | Invictus Benson | - | - |
| 5/6 | 6 Mar 2022 | Sandown Park | 515m | 10 | - | - | 4.5L | - | 8 | $10.40 | 6 days ago | 5-5-3-3-5 | 5.4225 | Roxy Smirnoff | - | - |
| 1/8 | 28 Feb 2022 | Traralgon | 395m | 10 | - | - | 1.75L | $1,000 | 7 | $4.20 | 4 days ago | 1 | - | Daintree Lad | - | Pacific Rock |
| 1/7 | 24 Feb 2022 | Warragul | 460m | 5 | - | - | 1.5L | $1,000 | 1 | $2.40 | 8 days ago | 1 | - | Daintree Lad | - | Blow My Mind |
| 6/8 | 16 Feb 2022 | Geelong | 460m | 5 | - | - | 13.5L | - | 6 | $9.50 | 7 days ago | 8-8-5-6 | 6.894 | Beastly Boy | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Xtreme Knocka
Dam
Freedom Fire
Trained at
Casey (C)
Owners
JOHN CARR
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| John Carr | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Strong type, gets the gun run, can threaten
Age
20/02/2017
Sex
Bd - Dog
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
53-3-9-8
Career
139-11-24-20
Prize Money
$31,435
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
2332135373
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
8%
Place S/Rate
40%
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 139-11-24-20 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 53-3-9-8 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 8% | 0% | 0% | 6% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 40% | 0% | 0% | 38% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3/6 | 13 Apr 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 5 | - | - | 4.0L | $310 | 2 | $13.10 | 7 days ago | 5-5-6-5-3 | 5.43 | Eagle Boy | - | Harrell Bale 30.9kgs 4.0L |
| 7/7 | 6 Apr 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 6 | - | - | 8.5L | - | 1 | $28.00 | 14 days ago | 5-4-6-7-7 | 5.3125 | My Name's Stacey | - | - |
| 3/7 | 23 Mar 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 8 | - | - | 9.0L | $325 | 2 | $50.40 | 7 days ago | 3 | - | Usman Bale | - | Harrell Bale 31kgs 9.0L |
| 5/5 | 16 Mar 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 4 | - | - | 7.25L | - | 8 | $34.30 | 7 days ago | 3-5-5-5-5 | 5.2625 | So Predictable | - | - |
| 3/9 | 9 Mar 2022 | The Meadows | 600m | 8 | - | - | 4.5L | $350 | 2 | $25.10 | 7 days ago | 3-3-3-4-3 | 9.14675 | Cashton Bale | - | Harrell Bale 31.1kgs 4.5L |
| 1/7 | 2 Mar 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 5 | - | - | 0.25L | $2,100 | 1 | $4.80 | 7 days ago | 2-3-2-2-1 | 5.2725 | Harrell Bale | - | Another Vendetta |
| 2/8 | 23 Feb 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 6 | - | - | 0.25L | $620 | 1 | $38.60 | 7 days ago | 1-2-2-2-2 | 5.24 | Halberd Bale | Harrell Bale 31.2kgs 0.25L | - |
| 3/8 | 16 Feb 2022 | The Meadows | 525m | 6 | - | - | 6.25L | $310 | 6 | $36.50 | 5 days ago | 7-7-7-4-3 | 5.35925 | Fabriola Zero | - | Harrell Bale 31.4kgs 6.25L |
| 3/10 | 11 Feb 2022 | Geelong | 460m | 12 | - | - | 8.0L | $265 | 4 | $60.10 | 8 days ago | 3-3-3-3 | 6.7475 | Funky Felix | - | Harrell Bale 31.3kgs 8.0L |
| 2/8 | 3 Feb 2022 | Shepparton | 450m | 8 | - | - | 2.5L | $530 | 8 | $17.90 | 15 days ago | 5-4-2-2 | 6.874 | Swarm | Harrell Bale 31.5kgs 2.5L | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Taylors Sky
Dam
Purcell Bale
Trained at
East Coburg
Owners
Steven Collyer
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Steven Collyer | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Track specialist, has early speed, danger