Ballarat R8 TAB - LONG MAY WE PLAY
Tab - Long May We Play
8:17pm • 450m8:17pm • 450m
Age
02/11/2019
Sex
Blue - Dog
Breeding
Barcia Bale - Appointed
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-1-0
Career
14-8-2-1
Prize Money
$53,685
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
21121316F1
Last Run
17 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 14-8-2-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-0-1-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 57% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 79% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 1 | - | - | 3 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/7 | 7 Oct 2021 | Geelong | 400m | 11 | - | - | 4.5L | $1,950 | 2 | $5.30 | 15 days ago | 2-1-1 | 8.405 | Distinguish | - | Cruising Ruby |
| F/10 | 22 Sep 2021 | Ballarat | 390m | 10 | - | - | - | - | 7 | - | 25 days ago | 0 | - | Ultimate Avenger | - | Distinguish |
| 6/10 | 28 Aug 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 9 | - | - | 5.0L | - | 7 | $5.60 | 10 days ago | 7-7-5-6 | 6.7405 | Oliver Bale | - | - |
| 1/7 | 18 Aug 2021 | Geelong | 400m | 4 | - | - | 1.75L | $1,650 | 4 | $1.50 | 5 days ago | 1-1-1 | 8.54 | Distinguish | - | Romeo Bale |
| 3/8 | 13 Aug 2021 | Geelong | 400m | 6 | - | - | 3.0L | $250 | 7 | $6.10 | 5 days ago | 5-4-3 | 8.67925 | Overshadowed | - | Distinguish 31.6kgs 3.0L |
| 1/10 | 8 Aug 2021 | Geelong | 460m | 8 | - | - | 0.25L | $1,750 | 5 | $3.70 | 8 days ago | 1-1-1-1 | 6.61 | Distinguish | - | Osprey Phantom |
| 2/8 | 31 Jul 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 10 | - | - | 0.25L | $475 | 1 | $1.60 | 8 days ago | 2 | - | Siren Head | Distinguish 32kgs 0.25L | - |
| 1/7 | 23 Jul 2021 | Geelong | 460m | 5 | - | - | 4.75L | $1,650 | 2 | $1.40 | 24 days ago | 1-1-1-1 | 6.58 | Distinguish | - | Lyrical Lad |
| 1/8 | 29 Jun 2021 | Geelong | 400m | 7 | - | - | 1.75L | $1,650 | 2 | $1.60 | 6 days ago | 2-2-1 | 8.5175 | Distinguish | - | Sweet Suzie |
| 2/10 | 23 Jun 2021 | Ballarat | 450m | 3 | - | - | 3.75L | $475 | 2 | $2.50 | 5 days ago | 2-2-3-2 | 6.8175 | Shima Bolt | Distinguish 32.2kgs 3.75L | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Barcia Bale
Dam
Appointed
Trained at
Two Wells
Owners
Amanda Tullio
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| John Barbara | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Capable but pace outside is a worry, too risky
Age
23/10/2018
Sex
Dkbd - Dog
Breeding
Fernando Bale - Timtams For Bams
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
14-3-4-1
Career
44-11-10-5
Prize Money
$24,290
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
4122525831
Last Run
4 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 44-11-10-5 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 14-3-4-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 25% | 0% | 0% | 21% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 59% | 0% | 0% | 57% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 5 | - | - | 2 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/8 | 20 Oct 2021 | Ballarat | 450m | 7 | - | - | 2.75L | $1,850 | 3 | $4.80 | 7 days ago | 1 | - | Hear the Drum | - | Indy Juno |
| 3/9 | 13 Oct 2021 | Ballarat | 450m | 8 | - | - | 5.5L | $275 | 2 | $15.10 | 12 days ago | 5-4-3-3 | 6.83175 | Cool Customer | - | Hear the Drum 33.2kgs 5.5L |
| 8/10 | 1 Oct 2021 | The Meadows | 525m | 11 | - | - | 9.0L | - | 3 | $4.60 | 6 days ago | 8-6-8-8-8 | 5.33275 | Aragog | - | - |
| 5/7 | 25 Sep 2021 | The Meadows | 525m | 10 | - | - | 2.25L | - | 1 | $3.50 | 7 days ago | 2-2-2-3-5 | 5.1575 | Summer Lights | - | - |
| 2/7 | 18 Sep 2021 | Geelong | 460m | 8 | - | - | 1.75L | $500 | 3 | $19.40 | 20 days ago | 1-1-1-2 | 6.61 | Peaky Blazer | Hear the Drum 33.1kgs 1.75L | - |
| 5/10 | 29 Aug 2021 | Ballarat | 450m | 6 | - | - | 2.5L | - | 4 | $11.50 | 4 days ago | 3-3-2-5 | 6.635 | Blackpool Bolt | - | - |
| 2/9 | 25 Aug 2021 | Ballarat | 450m | 9 | - | - | 2.5L | $500 | 8 | $3.40 | 4 days ago | 4-4-3-2 | 6.677 | Blackpool Bolt | Hear the Drum 33.1kgs 2.5L | - |
| 2/8 | 21 Aug 2021 | Ballarat | 450m | 8 | - | - | 0.5L | $290 | 4 | $1.70 | 4 days ago | 4-3-2-2 | 6.709 | Noonbarra Jack | Hear the Drum 33.4kgs 0.5L | - |
| 1/8 | 17 Aug 2021 | Geelong | 400m | 7 | - | - | 1.0L | $1,000 | 4 | $2.90 | 4 days ago | 4-2-1 | 8.5325 | Hear the Drum | - | Gutter Stomper |
| 4/8 | 13 Aug 2021 | Geelong | 400m | 6 | - | - | 4.0L | - | 5 | $12.40 | 7 days ago | 4-5-4 | 8.6775 | Overshadowed | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Fernando Bale
Dam
Timtams For Bams
Trained at
Kings Park
Owners
Team Dailly (P) (Nd Eighteen) (Syn)
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Phillip Tanti | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Showing promise, strong in the run home, respect
Age
25/02/2019
Sex
Bk - Dog
Breeding
Mepunga Blazer - Bel Air Mist
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
0-0-0-0
Career
12-5-2-2
Prize Money
$17,955
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
3516121162
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 12-5-2-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 42% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 75% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 2 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/7 | 17 Oct 2021 | Sandown Provincial | 515m | 7 | - | - | 1.75L | $620 | 1 | $2.00 | 11 days ago | 6-3-3-3-2 | 5.222 | Chatterbox Tilly | Dreamers Lie 32.8kgs 1.75L | - |
| 6/7 | 6 Oct 2021 | The Meadows Provincial | 525m | 5 | - | - | 7.25L | - | 7 | $11.40 | 39 days ago | 3-4-5-5-6 | 5.197 | Snapper Smith | - | - |
| 1/10 | 28 Aug 2021 | Bendigo | 500m | 6 | - | - | 1.25L | $1,900 | 4 | $2.50 | 12 days ago | 1 | - | Dreamers Lie | - | Glamorous Lass |
| 1/8 | 16 Aug 2021 | Shepparton | 450m | 6 | - | - | 1.75L | $1,650 | 7 | $5.80 | 6 days ago | 1 | - | Dreamers Lie | - | All Inn Jasper |
| 2/8 | 10 Aug 2021 | Warragul | 460m | 8 | - | - | 2.75L | $475 | 1 | $14.50 | 61 days ago | 3-2-2-2 | 6.59 | Springview Magic | Dreamers Lie 32.6kgs 2.75L | - |
| 1/8 | 10 Jun 2021 | Sandown | 515m | 1 | - | - | 1.75L | $5,280 | 2 | $4.50 | 5 days ago | 3-3-1-1-1 | 5.245 | Dreamers Lie | - | Lala Fig |
| 6/10 | 5 Jun 2021 | Cranbourne | 520m | 8 | - | - | 9.75L | - | 4 | $71.80 | 17 days ago | 6 | - | Immunity | - | - |
| 1/5 | 19 May 2021 | The Meadows Provincial | 525m | 3 | 7 | - | 2.5L | $1,900 | 8 | $5.50 | 15 days ago | 4-4-2-1-1 | - | Dreamers Lie | - | Defensible |
| 5/8 | 4 May 2021 | Warragul | 460m | 4 | X67 | - | 6.75L | - | 8 | $3.70 | 21 days ago | 6-5-6-5 | - | Aston Percival | - | - |
| 3/8 | 13 Apr 2021 | Warragul | 460m | 9 | X67 | - | 8.25L | $235 | 3 | $6.90 | 7 days ago | 5-4-4-3 | - | Courageous Swan | - | Dreamers Lie 32.8kgs 8.25L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Mepunga Blazer
Dam
Bel Air Mist
Trained at
Pakenham
Owners
Maddison Toner
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Maddison Toner | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Gutsy effort to score at Warragul, can run a drum
Age
08/02/2020
Sex
F - Bitch
Breeding
Aston Dee Bee - Aston Cha Cha
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-0-0
Career
12-4-1-2
Prize Money
$107,290
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
6312517315
Last Run
6 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 12-4-1-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 33% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 58% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 3 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/10 | 18 Oct 2021 | Shepparton | 450m | 7 | - | - | 8.75L | - | 2 | $5.50 | 6 days ago | 7-6-5-5 | 6.79 | King of Glory | - | - |
| 1/7 | 12 Oct 2021 | Warragul | 400m | 9 | - | - | 1.0L | $1,950 | 6 | $2.60 | 5 days ago | 3-3-1 | 8.6125 | Aston Tango | - | Maverick Nacho |
| 3/8 | 7 Oct 2021 | Geelong | 400m | 12 | - | - | 7.5L | $265 | 1 | $1.40 | 8 days ago | 7-3-3 | 8.895 | Little Tiger | - | Aston Tango 29.7kgs 7.5L |
| 7/7 | 29 Sep 2021 | Ballarat | 450m | 12 | - | - | 14.75L | - | 1 | $6.10 | 5 days ago | 7 | - | Weblec Thunder | - | - |
| 1/10 | 24 Sep 2021 | Geelong | 400m | 11 | - | - | 6.25L | $1,650 | 6 | $2.90 | 10 days ago | 1-1-1 | 8.6 | Aston Tango | - | Kingsville Flyer |
| 5/10 | 14 Sep 2021 | Warragul | 460m | 5 | - | - | 8.25L | - | 4 | $8.60 | 7 days ago | 5 | - | Magical Mavis | - | - |
| 2/8 | 7 Sep 2021 | Warragul | 460m | 2 | - | - | 3.5L | $475 | 3 | $5.80 | 7 days ago | 1-1-1-2 | 6.47 | Earthworm Jim | Aston Tango 29.8kgs 3.5L | - |
| 1/8 | 31 Aug 2021 | Warragul | 400m | 2 | - | - | 5.5L | $1,650 | 8 | $4.00 | 7 days ago | 1 | - | Aston Tango | - | Starlight Tyson |
| 3/10 | 24 Aug 2021 | Warragul | 400m | 2 | - | - | 3.75L | $235 | 8 | $9.20 | 6 days ago | 4-3-3 | 8.5325 | Extreme Harriet | - | Aston Tango 30kgs 3.75L |
| 6/10 | 18 Aug 2021 | Ballarat | 390m | 3 | - | - | 3.5L | - | 3 | $8.60 | 7 days ago | 4-4-6 | 8.775 | Kanji Nano | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Aston Dee Bee
Dam
Aston Cha Cha
Trained at
Avalon
Owners
Raymond Borda
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Benjamin Magri | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Better than form, can stay wide, main danger
Age
28/06/2019
Sex
Bk - Dog
Breeding
Dyna Villa - Samus Allen
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
1-0-0-0
Career
29-3-2-6
Prize Money
$40,065
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
4344336745
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 29-3-2-6 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 1-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 10% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 38% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 8 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5/10 | 19 Oct 2021 | Horsham | 485m | 8 | - | - | 3.0L | - | 4 | $16.20 | 7 days ago | 5 | - | It's a Brew | - | - |
| 4/7 | 12 Oct 2021 | Horsham | 485m | 8 | - | - | 5.5L | - | 7 | $15.40 | 5 days ago | 4-5-4-4 | 6.777 | Braemar Prince | - | - |
| 7/8 | 7 Oct 2021 | Sandown | 515m | 11 | - | - | 5.25L | - | 3 | $9.60 | 7 days ago | 7 | - | Lakeview Bonnie | - | - |
| 6/8 | 30 Sep 2021 | Sandown | 515m | 10 | - | - | 6.25L | - | 2 | $5.90 | 7 days ago | 3-4-6-6-6 | 5.2875 | Rear View Mirror | - | - |
| 3/10 | 23 Sep 2021 | Sandown | 515m | 10 | - | - | 4.0L | $760 | 8 | $13.60 | 0 days ago | 7-8-4-3-3 | 5.33 | Instruction | - | Vardan Bale 32.8kgs 4.0L |
| 3/8 | 23 Sep 2021 | Melbourne | 515m | 10 | 5 | - | 3.97L | $760 | 8 | $8.00 | 7 days ago | 7-8-4-3-3 | 5.33 | Instruction | - | Vardan Bale 32.8kgs 3.97L |
| 4/8 | 16 Sep 2021 | Melbourne | 515m | 11 | 5 | - | 6.94L | - | 7 | $11.60 | 7 days ago | 3-5-4-4-4 | 5.2 | Super Marli | - | - |
| 4/10 | 16 Sep 2021 | Sandown | 515m | 11 | - | - | 7.0L | - | 7 | $11.60 | 0 days ago | 3-5-4-4-4 | 5.1975 | Super Marli | - | - |
| 3/7 | 9 Sep 2021 | Sandown | 515m | 10 | - | - | 5.25L | $760 | 4 | $20.60 | 19 days ago | 3-4-4-3-3 | 5.1725 | Osprey Phantom | - | Vardan Bale 33kgs 5.25L |
| 4/7 | 21 Aug 2021 | The Meadows | 525m | 10 | - | - | 4.5L | - | 1 | $19.40 | 9 days ago | 5-5-5-4-4 | 5.2925 | Spring Cobra | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Dyna Villa
Dam
Samus Allen
Trained at
Balliang
Owners
Janice Wheeler
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mark Delbridge | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Rises in class, may get buried back early, tested
Age
22/05/2019
Sex
Wbk - Bitch
Breeding
Mepunga Blazer - Bruree Jewel
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
7-2-1-1
Career
29-6-5-4
Prize Money
$27,925
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
3721861172
Last Run
4 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 29-6-5-4 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 7-2-1-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 21% | 0% | 0% | 29% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 52% | 0% | 0% | 57% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 7 | - | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/9 | 20 Oct 2021 | Ballarat | 390m | 12 | - | - | 2.0L | $530 | 4 | $9.70 | 4 days ago | 4-3-2 | 8.675 | Golden Skyrocket | Birdbrook 25.7kgs 2.0L | - |
| 7/9 | 16 Oct 2021 | Horsham | 410m | 5 | - | - | 10.75L | - | 1 | $3.80 | 6 days ago | 7 | - | Scorching Sun | - | - |
| 1/10 | 10 Oct 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 8 | - | - | 1.0L | $1,950 | 7 | $55.60 | 8 days ago | 1 | - | Birdbrook | - | Chop Scotch |
| 1/9 | 2 Oct 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 4 | - | - | 1.5L | $1,850 | 5 | $36.70 | 8 days ago | 1-1-1-1 | 6.55 | Birdbrook | - | Diamond Ability |
| 6/8 | 24 Sep 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 5 | - | - | 9.75L | - | 2 | $19.70 | 7 days ago | 3-5-6-6 | 6.7925 | College Degree | - | - |
| 8/10 | 17 Sep 2021 | Geelong | 460m | 5 | - | - | 16.75L | - | 2 | $2.80 | 4 days ago | 8 | - | Bolt Out | - | - |
| 1/7 | 13 Sep 2021 | Ballarat | 450m | 6 | - | - | 0.5L | $1,000 | 1 | $1.40 | 8 days ago | 1-1-1-1 | 6.52 | Birdbrook | - | Thundering Don |
| 2/9 | 5 Sep 2021 | Ballarat | 450m | 9 | - | - | 1.0L | $550 | 6 | $3.20 | 8 days ago | 1-1-1-2 | 6.63 | Bolt Out | Birdbrook 25.8kgs 1.0L | - |
| 7/10 | 28 Aug 2021 | Bendigo | 500m | 6 | - | - | 8.75L | - | 5 | $27.90 | 8 days ago | 7 | - | Dreamers Lie | - | - |
| 3/8 | 20 Aug 2021 | Bendigo | 500m | 9 | - | - | 5.25L | $275 | 5 | $14.80 | 9 days ago | 1-2-3-3 | 6.55 | Double 'Em Up | - | Birdbrook 25.8kgs 5.25L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Mepunga Blazer
Dam
Bruree Jewel
Trained at
Amherst
Owners
Andrew Mooney
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Andrew Mooney | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Racing well but needs room early on, place
Age
10/09/2018
Sex
Be - Bitch
Breeding
Banjo Boy - Pat Me Again
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
4-0-0-0
Career
58-14-7-7
Prize Money
$30,105
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
3341176112
Last Run
7 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 58-14-7-7 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 4-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 24% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 48% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 6 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2/10 | 17 Oct 2021 | Sale | 440m | 11 | - | - | 2.75L | $620 | 6 | $14.00 | 9 days ago | 1-3-3-2 | 5.27 | Dr. Slats | Spun Out 29.1kgs 2.75L | - |
| 1/6 | 8 Oct 2021 | Sale | 440m | 11 | - | - | 3.75L | $1,850 | 5 | $3.10 | 5 days ago | 2-1-1-1 | 5.267 | Spun Out | - | Almapa Sunshine |
| 1/6 | 3 Oct 2021 | Healesville | 350m | 9 | - | - | 1.0L | $1,850 | 7 | $5.30 | 6 days ago | 1 | - | Spun Out | - | Loves the Surf |
| 6/6 | 27 Sep 2021 | Shepparton | 450m | 9 | - | - | 5.75L | - | 5 | $20.60 | 9 days ago | 2-3-4-6 | 6.617 | Hazey Roy | - | - |
| 7/7 | 18 Sep 2021 | Geelong | 460m | 8 | - | - | 7.25L | - | 1 | $7.00 | 8 days ago | 2-5-6-7 | 6.645 | Peaky Blazer | - | - |
| 1/9 | 10 Sep 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 10 | - | - | 4.0L | $1,650 | 1 | $4.20 | 8 days ago | 1-1-1-1 | 6.56 | Spun Out | - | Sassenach |
| 1/8 | 2 Sep 2021 | Warragul | 460m | 8 | - | - | 1.25L | $1,650 | 6 | $2.30 | 9 days ago | 1 | - | Spun Out | - | Knight Zipper |
| 4/10 | 24 Aug 2021 | Warragul | 460m | 8 | - | - | 7.25L | - | 8 | $18.30 | 6 days ago | 4-4-5-4 | 6.6425 | Smart As Jack | - | - |
| 3/10 | 18 Aug 2021 | Geelong | 460m | 8 | - | - | 5.0L | $250 | 5 | $25.90 | 6 days ago | 4-4-4-3 | 6.647 | Xavien Bale | - | Spun Out 29kgs 5.0L |
| 3/6 | 12 Aug 2021 | Warrnambool | 450m | 7 | - | - | 2.5L | $250 | 2 | $15.90 | 4 days ago | 3 | - | Zimmer Bale | - | Spun Out 28.8kgs 2.5L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Banjo Boy
Dam
Pat Me Again
Trained at
Yarraville
Owners
Bee Gee Mac (Syn)
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gregory Mcrae | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Loves a wide draw, good turn of foot, big threat
Age
17/12/2018
Sex
Bk - Dog
Breeding
Invictus Rapid - Paua To Excite
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
0-0-0-0
Career
23-8-3-2
Prize Money
$31,681
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
7817121118
Last Run
6 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 23-8-3-2 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 35% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 57% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | 4 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8/10 | 18 Oct 2021 | Shepparton | 450m | 7 | - | - | 11.75L | - | 1 | $3.80 | 6 days ago | 3-4-8-8 | 6.6325 | King of Glory | - | - |
| 1/10 | 12 Oct 2021 | Horsham | 410m | 6 | - | - | 2.5L | $1,950 | 1 | $3.40 | 22 days ago | 1-1-1 | 10.29 | Bett's Blues | - | Spring Poldark |
| 1/8 | 20 Sep 2021 | Warrnambool | 450m | 6 | - | - | 3.5L | $1,000 | 1 | $1.20 | 6 days ago | 1-1-1-1 | 6.59 | Bett's Blues | - | Rockstar Haynes |
| 1/7 | 14 Sep 2021 | Shepparton | 450m | 6 | - | - | 5.75L | $1,000 | 8 | $1.60 | 7 days ago | 1-1-1-1 | 6.56 | Bett's Blues | - | Berringa Blue |
| 2/10 | 7 Sep 2021 | Healesville | 350m | 5 | - | - | 1.0L | $290 | 6 | $14.00 | 14 days ago | 3-2 | 6.6875 | Dash Home | Bett's Blues 35.3kgs 1.0L | - |
| 1/8 | 24 Aug 2021 | Geelong | 400m | 10 | - | - | 0.5L | $1,000 | 6 | $5.30 | 15 days ago | 1 | - | Bett's Blues | - | Kanga Lights |
| 7/10 | 9 Aug 2021 | Ballarat | 390m | 11 | - | - | 13.75L | - | 6 | $4.30 | 20 days ago | 3-6-7 | 8.68 | Joyous Moment | - | - |
| 1/7 | 20 Jul 2021 | Geelong | 460m | 8 | - | - | 1.0L | $1,000 | 8 | $2.00 | 8 days ago | 2-1-1-1 | 6.7375 | Bett's Blues | - | Mt. View Emma |
| 8/10 | 12 Jul 2021 | Shepparton | 450m | 10 | - | - | 9.25L | - | 1 | $1.70 | 8 days ago | 4-5-8-8 | 6.7475 | All Inn Maggie | - | - |
| 7/10 | 4 Jul 2021 | Healesville | 350m | 10 | - | - | 5.75L | - | 5 | $3.30 | 41 days ago | 7-7 | 6.86275 | Bruree Town | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Invictus Rapid
Dam
Paua To Excite
Trained at
Lara
Owners
Gary Black
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lisa Delbridge | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Steady record here, rises in class, tough ask
Age
15/04/2018
Sex
Bk - Dog
Breeding
Barcia Bale - Glass Roof
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
12-0-3-1
Career
70-7-7-11
Prize Money
$19,038
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
6753135514
Last Run
8 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 70-7-7-11 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 12-0-3-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 10% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 36% | 0% | 0% | 33% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4/7 | 16 Oct 2021 | Horsham | 485m | 8 | - | - | 3.0L | - | 4 | $42.40 | 3 days ago | 4 | - | Kutcher's Ruslie | - | - |
| 1/8 | 13 Oct 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 7 | - | - | 5.5L | $1,000 | 1 | $2.70 | 10 days ago | 1 | - | Ashby Swift | - | Just the Marjen |
| 5/6 | 3 Oct 2021 | Melbourne | 515m | 12 | 5 | - | 10.8L | - | 8 | $23.90 | 0 days ago | 4-5-5-5-5 | 5.23 | Roxy Tequila | - | - |
| 5/6 | 3 Oct 2021 | Sandown Provincial | 515m | 12 | - | - | 11.0L | - | 8 | $23.90 | 4 days ago | 5 | - | Roxy Tequila | - | - |
| 3/8 | 29 Sep 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 11 | - | - | 1.75L | $145 | 7 | $5.50 | 7 days ago | 3 | - | Pete Cabang | - | Ashby Swift 30.9kgs 1.75L |
| 1/8 | 22 Sep 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 11 | - | - | 1.0L | $1,000 | 1 | $18.70 | 7 days ago | 2-2-2-1 | 6.78 | Ashby Swift | - | Especial Empire |
| 3/7 | 15 Sep 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 11 | - | - | 6.25L | $145 | 8 | $13.20 | 4 days ago | 6-6-6-3 | 6.97425 | Mcivor Ernie | - | Ashby Swift 31.2kgs 6.25L |
| 5/9 | 11 Sep 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 9 | - | - | 3.5L | - | 8 | $36.90 | 3 days ago | 8-5-6-5 | 6.8385 | Smokin' Charlie | - | - |
| 7/10 | 8 Sep 2021 | Ballarat | 390m | 12 | - | - | 9.5L | - | 2 | $36.70 | 4 days ago | 7 | - | Fusion Spy | - | - |
| 6/8 | 4 Sep 2021 | Horsham | 410m | 11 | - | - | 4.0L | - | 6 | $27.60 | 5 days ago | 7-7-6 | 10.78675 | Electric Zulu | - | - |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
Barcia Bale
Dam
Glass Roof
Trained at
Sailors Gully
Owners
Laura Barnes
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Briana Robertson -leech | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |
Race comment
Talented but well down on best form
Age
23/03/2019
Sex
Black - Bitch
Breeding
David Bale - Dyna Chill
Today's Stats
Good
0-0-0-0
Track
0-0-0-0
Distance
0-0-0-0
Track & Distance
4-0-0-1
Career
54-5-12-8
Prize Money
$31,435
Win Range
N/A
Last 10 Starts
367825F567
Last Run
5 days ago
Win S/Rate
Place S/Rate
| Total | Distance | Track | Trk & Dist | Day | Night | 1st Up | 2nd Up | 3rd Up | 4th Up | Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Listed | WFA | Jumps | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 54-5-12-8 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 4-0-0-1 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 9% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 46% | 0% | 0% | 25% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Finish | Date | Track | Distance | Race No. | Cond. | Class | Margin | Prize won | Box | SP | Last Run | In-running | Sectionals | Winner | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7/7 | 19 Oct 2021 | Horsham | 410m | 10 | - | - | 8.0L | - | 6 | $14.30 | 6 days ago | 7-7-7 | 10.849 | Crackerjack Keg | - | - |
| 6/7 | 13 Oct 2021 | Ballarat | 450m | 7 | - | - | 6.25L | - | 3 | $19.00 | 3 days ago | 7-7-6-6 | 6.8695 | She's So Kind | - | - |
| 5/10 | 10 Oct 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 11 | - | - | 2.5L | - | 2 | $8.20 | 44 days ago | 4-7-6-5 | 6.641 | Mcivor Bluey | - | - |
| F/8 | 27 Aug 2021 | Ballarat | 450m | 8 | - | - | - | - | 5 | - | 8 days ago | 0 | - | Boom Out | - | Oamaru Bale |
| 5/6 | 19 Aug 2021 | Warrnambool | 450m | 4 | - | - | 2.75L | - | 5 | $10.50 | 6 days ago | 5-5-5-5 | 6.767 | Abalone Fozz | - | - |
| 2/6 | 13 Aug 2021 | Geelong | 460m | 11 | - | - | 1.5L | $475 | 1 | $12.10 | 7 days ago | 3-3-3-2 | 6.61 | Tan Star | Oamaru Bale 26.8kgs 1.5L | - |
| 8/10 | 6 Aug 2021 | Bendigo | 425m | 4 | - | - | 9.25L | - | 5 | $17.30 | 8 days ago | 5-8-8-8 | 6.741 | Alumni | - | - |
| 7/10 | 29 Jul 2021 | Sandown | 515m | 11 | - | - | 8.25L | - | 6 | $14.60 | 6 days ago | 7-5-6-7-7 | 5.267 | Isolating | - | - |
| 6/7 | 23 Jul 2021 | Geelong | 460m | 7 | - | - | 8.0L | - | 8 | $32.50 | 7 days ago | 3-3-6-6 | 6.62 | Rocket Boy | - | - |
| 3/9 | 16 Jul 2021 | Geelong | 460m | 4 | - | - | 5.0L | $235 | 2 | $2.70 | 3 days ago | 4-5-4-3 | 6.787 | Lights Action | - | Oamaru Bale 26.9kgs 5.0L |
| Firm | Good | Soft | Heavy | Synthetic | All Wet | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | 0-0-0-0 | |
| Win % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Place % | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | |
| Rank | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Sire
David Bale
Dam
Dyna Chill
Trained at
Bargo
Owners
Brendan Wheeler
| Trainer (12 months) | Stats | Win % | Place % | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mark Delbridge | 0-0-0-0 | 0% | 0% | - |










Race comment
Explodes soon after box rise, hard to hold out